Who do you thinks got /had more skill....(Earnhardt Sr.)

jeff gordon..
earnhardt sr. sometimes race with emotion.. and its not good..

Earnhardt Sr. all the way. He was the Intimidator. You saw him coming, you got the fkk out of the way. Gordon is good driver who was made to look great in a great cars. Hendrick dominated for a few years because they were the first stock car team to apply modern engineering, and it took a while for everyone else to catch up. When was the last time you saw Gordon put an ill-handling car in the top 5? Earnhardt made a living doing that. When Gordo has a crap car, (like most of last year), he just bitches and blames his team.

Plus, Earnhardt Sr. could have taken a Chuck Norris roundhouse. If Gordon took a Norris roundhouse, his face would swell up so bad it would actually look like he had an upper lip.

Earnhardt Sr. all the way. He was the Intimidator. You saw him coming, you got the fkk out of the way. Gordon is good driver who was made to look great in a great cars. Hendrick dominated for a few years because they were the first stock car team to apply modern engineering, and it took a while for everyone else to catch up. When was the last time you saw Gordon put an ill-handling car in the top 5? Earnhardt made a living doing that. When Gordo has a crap car, (like most of last year), he just bitches and blames his team.

Plus, Earnhardt Sr. could have taken a Chuck Norris roundhouse. If Gordon took a Norris roundhouse, his face would swell up so bad it would actually look like he had an upper lip.

Jeff NEVER blames his own crew...even if it is their fault. I believe your thinking of jr. he on the other hand fires his crew when they dont win him a champ.

In the last race of the Chase last year, he ended up w/ a bum-fkk run, and as he was coming out of his hauler, he basically said that his teammates need to get thier shtuff together, especially on the intermediate tracks if they were ever going to win again. It's pretty obvious he was behind having Robbie Loomis so disrespected by the Hendrick organization that he fled for Petty Enterprises too. Don't be a 24 fanboy. GORDON SUCKS!!!

Jeff was the only one left defending robbie when he left...i would have rather had jeff just say "Robbie Sucks". He tries so hard not to complain.

You are a NASCAR noob as well, USA HORSE.

jeffie is undoubtedly a skilled race driver, considering his big budget domination in sprint cars, BGN (in Fords) racing and his big budget success in NASCAR. How could you keep a job unless you keep winning? DOH!

A few years ago, fans (w/scanners) came back from Charlotte telling me about jeffie cussing a blue streak at his crew about his lousy car, until his crewchief reminded him that thousands were listening.

In the hoopla surrounding jeffie's 1995 Cup championship (youngest in the modern era); Richard Petty said it best: "I won my first NASCAR championship (60+ races?) in my third year of racing. I did it out of my own pocket. jeffie won his first NASCAR championship in his 14th year of racing. The boy has never worked a day in his life."

I was a diehard Dale hater when he was on top. I figuring that GM had the fix in. The only time Dale ever whined was when he said (after failing to win the Daytona 500 after beaucoup attempts), "I guess I just ain't supposed to win the damn thing!" He earned my respect in his later years when wins didn't come so often. He raced hard and (mostly) clean.

Would any posters be dumb enough to bet that more drivers today respect jeffie than respected Dale 5 years ago. I could sell you a bridge.

[-X No i'm NOT a NASCAR "noob" i've been watchin' it and going to races for over half my life...The King can say what ever he wants to, but it sound like it was "in the heat of the moment" and he was just mad. Jeff's worked hard to be where he is today.

[-X No i'm NOT a NASCAR "noob" i've been watchin' it and going to races for over half my life...The King can say what ever he wants to, but it sound like it was "in the heat of the moment" and he was just mad. Jeff's worked hard to be where he is today.


Dude, you're 19...

Steve's been following racing for at least *19* years.

Sorry, I wanted it to sound like I had been watching racing for a few decades.:o

That's because you want everything you say to 'sound' like you know what you're talking about. The sad thing is that all the members I've asked have no respect for you or anything you have to say...

That don't matter, I know enough about NASCAR, as much as anyone who's been watching it for 20 years.

Dude, you're niiiiineteeeeeen.

You've probably only been watching it for 15 years...if that, more like ten.

Big whoop.

I became a Dale Jr fan by default. I was a SR fan for years, and always bet on him in our local pool. When he died, no one had JR, so I was stuck with him. I will take him over the "Rainbow Warrior" anyday

I will tell you something about firing crews. He should have done it a long time ago. I have been under the hood of more race cars than you have seen on TV, horse. I know what a bad pit can do for a racer. This year we saw it with JR.

It happens in all types of racing. Garlitts did it a couple times that I know of. I watched Bob Glidden damn near attack his crew chief with a wrench once at OCIR when I was a kid. Jeff Gordon's not a saint, you have no idea what might go on behind the scenes...

Of course he's not a "saint". I never said he was. It can be good to "Staighten out" your crew every now and then.
If you do, base it off there personal performance, not off of where you finished on the track.

If a football team loses consistently what does the team owner do? Fires the coaching staff and tries over in the next season... same thing in NASCAR

first off, I think this whole thing about "Firing" started cause' Earnhardt fired half his crew at the end of the 2004 season, why???
He won 6 or 7 races?
Including the 500.
Was very consistant.
But, he set his team back 25 pts. in the "chase" for cussin' on TV. He ended up about 3rd in the final standings, he wanted 1st, so he fired them,:rolleyes: and had a new crew for 2005, and fiished about 20th in the final standings.

How do you know that's why he fired them? Are you his little buddy?

Man, you're out to get me....
Anyhow, based off of the things he said about Tony Eury jr. and Tony Eury Sr. in the closing of the season, OF COURSE thats why he (and his step mother, Teresa Earnhardt) "released" the members of the crew. Did you hear him?
He didn't say these exact words, but bascically he did:
"I droved da hell out ah dat 8 car, but it'z tuff wen yer team givs ya shiit on wheels"
:confused:

Man, you're out to get me....
Nope... you're out to get yourself, you just don't get it yet

Dude, your completely right....I don't get it yet.

Actually mang, if you knew your azzhole from a hole in the ground, you would know that DEI didn't fire Dale Jr's '04 crew. What they did was swap crew chiefs, crews, cars, shops, everything with the 15 team, (formerly Michael Waltrip). It has two purposes...1) Make the 15 car more competitive. They were trying to put two cars in the Chase for '05. 2) Put some distance between Jr. And Eury Jr., whom with Jr. was starting to have a contentious working relationship.

Now after the '05 season started out like crap, Pete Rondeau was replaced as Jr.'s crew chief, but even then he wasn't fired, he was made "director of competion" for DEI or something like that. Things didn't go much better for his replacment, Steve Hmiel, despite the win in Chicago. Hmiel wasn't fired either. Late in the season Jr. reunited with Tony Eury Jr., and the cars were clearly better, but he got caught up in some wrecks thru no fault of his own, (it happens in racing). If anything, DEI has proven themselves to be an organization that is more likely to move people around than fire someone when things aren't working.

But each indivisual team--in a team (DEI= 1, 8, 15...DEI is a team, and each car is a team) have there owners who run it.

i.e.
if the head of the 8 team says, "leave" he has NOT nessisarily been asked to leave DEI, but rather just the 8 team.
So what happened was, Jr. and his owners said "leave" to one crew chief after another, and thay kept tossing them over into the 15 pit.

I wish I knew as much about my life as you know about his! Wow!!!

Its not his life I know about, its just the way they run a team.

The sad thing is that all the members I've asked have no respect for you or anything you have to say...

I know you haven't asked, but you counted me right?

????????????????
I seriosly don't get whats the BIG DEAL?????

Of course Parko, I always count you! lol

I wish I knew as much about my life as you know about his! Wow!!!

If you think this guy knows a lot about Dale Earnhardt Jr., you should see how much he knows about Paul Walker

Paul Walker?????
Actually I think he was on Jay Leno once.
I thought he was an actor...?
Does he race???

That's funny, I just checked the Paul Walker fan club website, and at the bottom it said....

President- USA HORSE

Look at his last post... he's trying to play it off like he's never seen his favorite movie or something...!!!! lol

I'm dead serious, I swear I did not know who he was...I just now searched the name on google, It said he was an "actor", with the way you guys are talking about it, I don't dear click on anything. :eek:
Lol...sounds like some guy alll the European "men" love.

He's actually been in a couple decent movies. Mr. Horse, wee don't believe you...

Horse seems more the Pee Wee Herman fan to me.... That or old Buffy the Vampire Slayer reruns....and even then just for the fight scenes

Well you sound like an expert.....I honestly didn't know who the hell he was.
I thought at first you guys were talking adout "Paul Newman" caus' I know he races.
And the "Walker" part, made me think of Chuck Norris...cause' you guys always talk about him.

So... ....

As far as TV shows go...I'm into "MacGyver"...Now he's cool.

that we can all belive, and probably Dukes of Hazzard too. You are a 19 year old who loves nascar, and talkes like a redneck. Saying that you like a cheesy 80s TV show about a guy with a mullet is no surprise

Well it is the honest truth.
WOW!!! I just thought of somthing...can you imagine a fight:
MacGyver Vs. Chuck Norris!!!
That would be sooo awesome!!!
Chuck Norris would try a round house, but Macgyver would get out his pocket knife, and make a grenade using--
A peice of wire,
An Autolight sparkplug,
and a tooth filling,
Can you Imagine...I'm going to start a new thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Man, Macyver's hair is short (buzzcut short), compared to mine.:cool:

MacGyver was a tweaker... Chuck Norris is a fighter... hmmm...

You need to quit starting threads everytime you get a useless thought in your head

But wouldn't you want to see a battle like that...I'd pay big money to see it on pay-per-view!!!

Doesn't Poo Walker own some crazy custom Hot Rod or something?

I think I've seen it before, it's like Charcoal...

Yea, dude I think your right.