Quite a dramatic race weekend, actually.

JB's Honda engine spectacularly blowing up, Webber leaving Williams, Kubica in at BMW Sauber.

But the main story this weekend is Alonso and Schumacher each getting two second penalties in each of the qualifying sessions, for passing under flags.

Stories about that can be found here:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=36939

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=36930

Both tried hard to get up furthest on the grid, but they start 11th and 15th.

Here is the grid for the race:

HUNGARIAN GP GRID

1. RAIKKONEN McLaren
2. MASSA Ferrari
3. BARRICHELLO Honda
4. DE LA ROSA McLaren
5. WEBBER Williams
6. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota
7. FISICHELLA Renault
8. TRULLI Toyota
9. KUBICA BMW
10. HEIDFELD BMW
11. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari*
12. COULTHARD Red Bull
13. KLIEN Red Bull
14. BUTTON Honda
15. ALONSO Renault*
16. MONTEIRO Midland F1
17. LIUZZI Toro Rosso
18. ROSBERG Williams
19. SPEED Toro Rosso
20. SATO Super Aguri
21. YAMAMOTO Super Aguri
22. ALBERS **

* 2s time penalty applied

** engine penalty applied

Opinions and thoughts on qualifying an the race guys?

This looks good for Kimi.
He is pretty far ahead of Alonso and Shumi, as long as Mclaren don't stuff up in the pits he should do well seeing as its ment to be hard to pass there.

wow what happen i need to see the qualifying

Wow, I might actually watch this GP. But I'll be throwing a bun through the room if the Mercedes engine breaks down. Raikkonen can't win the championship, but it will be his first victory since I remember... if he wins.

wow what happen i need to see the qualifying

It was a dramatic qualifying session, with Schumacher posting a 1:18: xxx in Q2, at least a second and a half faster than anybody else could manage and he still didn't get through to Q3! (because of two sec. time penalty)

I think the race will be disputed between Fisichella, Massa and Raikkonen although if Mercedes' engine pulls through I think Raikkonen will take the victory.

It's going to be a race up until the final pit stop although there is a possible overtaking place at the first corner, although if somebody in the midfield runs long into the race on fuel then they could come into play for the victory.

UPDATE:

Scott Speed's three fastest times have been deleted for impeding somebody on the racetrack:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=36952

Here's the revised grid:

HUNGARIAN GP GRID

1. RAIKKONEN McLaren

2. MASSA Ferrari

3. BARRICHELLO Honda

4. DE LA ROSA McLaren

5. WEBBER Williams

6. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota

7. FISICHELLA Renault

8. TRULLI Toyota

9. KUBICA BMW

10. HEIDFELD BMW

11. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari*

12. COULTHARD Red Bull

13. KLIEN Red Bull

14. BUTTON Honda

15. ALONSO Renault*

16. MONTEIRO Midland

17. LIUZZI Toro Rosso

18. ROSBERG Williams

19. SATO Super Aguri

20. SPEED Toro Rosso**

21. YAMAMOTO Super Aguri

22. ALBERS Midland***


* 2s time penalty imposed

** 3 best times deleted for impeding a rival

*** engine penalty imposed

^I feel sorry for Speed, thats ought to be a few seconds off his time.
How did he hold up his rivals?

i feel that kimi will win....to me he proved himself with the last to first win at suzuka....if he makes it through the race with no mechanical or other incidents he will win..


im hoping schumacher in top 5

Yes . Kimi is first again but hope there is nothing bad happening to him today not like last week , his car was in pit and he got third . A nice start for De La Rosa though.

Kimi is out of it from a crash with that guy Yamaoto or what ever his name is.

De La Rosa is still doing pretty well a possible second or Mclaren.

Great race! Congrats to:

Button for 1st win!

de la Rosa for 1st podium!

Sauber BMW for 1st podium!

Yahoo ! de la Rosa , its a nice one ! Yahoo !
What is the penalty means ?

YEAHHHHHHHHS!!! Iam so glad Jenson has finally won a race. All credit to him and Honda cause he had an engine penalty and dropped 10 places during qualifying and still managed 4th which meant a 14th start.
I heard them mention he broke the record previously set by Mansell for winning the race from starting in the lowest position- Mansell '89 = 12th, Button '06= 14th.

The topic of discussion probably should be the Alonso Schumacher fight which was quite interesting- i really thought Schumacher would get some pts but then on the 3rd last lap his car failed!

Yippy! Button finally won and not that old fart schumacher in his little red car

Yippy! Button finally won and not that old fart schumacher in his little red car

Lol, I still would have liked Mclaren to win or Kimi to at least get a podium.

Button won?


Haha, I wonder what Clarkson's thinking now.

Button won?


Haha, I wonder what Clarkson's thinking now.

I'm gonna go sell my GT for a NSX and Lotus.

We won mom! Mom we finally won! hehe. Go Honda F1, long time overdue. Stupid Jensen. Haha, good race

YEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON BUTTON!!!!!

I'm so f*cking happy that he won!! He thoroughly deserves it and I knew he would win sooner or later. It proves that Jenson is a race winner and Honda can build race winning cars!

I was nearly reduced to tears when that Honda blissfully crossed the finish line, it's been a dream day for me!! I'm so happy:)

I hope this win is just the beginning of many more happy things to come:)

Here's the official result:

Hungarian Grand Prix result (70 laps), Budapest

1. BUTTON Honda 1h52m20.941s
2. DE LA ROSA McLaren +30.8
3. HEIDFELD BMW +43.8s
4. BARRICHELLO Honda +45.2s
5. COULTHARD Red Bull +1 lap
6. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota +1 lap
7. KUBICA BMW +1 lap
8. MASSA Ferrari +1 lap
9. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari +3 laps
10. MONTEIRO Midland +3 laps
11. ALBERS Midland +3 laps
12. SPEED Toro Rosso +4 laps
13. TRULLI Toyota +5 laps
14. SATO Super Aguri +5 laps
R. ALONSO Renault +19 laps
R. RAIKKONEN McLaren +45 laps
R. LIUZZI Toro Rosso +45 laps
R. ROSBERG Williams +51 laps
R. FISICHELLA Renault +52 laps
R. KLIEN Red Bull +64 laps
R. WEBBER Williams +69 laps
R. YAMAMOTO Super Aguri +70 laps

I'm so glad I got Speed TV.

That was a pretty tense race.

Button won, Kubica scored points in his F1 debut, Schumacher out after Alonso's lil' crew mishap, with only 3 laps left...Wow, good stuff.

I'm so glad I got Speed TV.

That was a pretty tense race.

Button won, Kubica scored points in his F1 debut, Schumacher out after Alonso's lil' crew mishap, with only 3 laps left...Wow, good stuff.


It wasn't the crews fault, it was something to do with the driveshaft.

It was pretty tense, I was expecting a rather boring race due to the first corner being the only good overtaking spot in the dry and not knowing the difference the wet made.

HAHAHA just look at Button's face after the race!!!
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5245/4235800nm2.jpg

He can't believe he actually won!

What happened to Webber this time? Williams have the worst reliability this year.

I am glad he chose to leave Williams at seasons end.

What happened to Webber this time? Williams have the worst reliability this year.

I am glad he chose to leave Williams at seasons end.


He went out pretty early in the race again, I cant remember why though.
How many races has he or even Williams finnsihed this year?

He went out pretty early in the race again, I cant remember why though.
How many races has he or even Williams finnsihed this year?

He hasnt finished very many,several times this year he has been forced out due to engine or mechanical failure.

He has been in podium positions during the race on 4 occasions that I can think of and would have won the Australian F1 grand prix if it wasnt for mechanical failure.

I dont even think his teammate Rosberg has had much luck with mechanicals this year.

This Hungarian GP is the best one i have ever seen. ( except the one that Alonso won it for his World Champion title. Although Alonso didn't finish the race, because of something(does anyone know) but Schumi also retired as well so it's okay. Great driving from Button, de la Rosa and Heidfield.

^Alonso's wheel nut (Right rear) fell off, then the left front, and then a spin into the tire wall.

But apparently it was something more severe. I didn't watch the post-race dissection of an hour. =)

His driveshaft failed, it wasn't something to do with the wheel nut I don't think, even though the wheel looked a bit wobbly and you could see something flying off the hub of the wheel, even though I'm not 100% sure, although Alonso said that it was a driveshaft problem when he was speaking to ITV.

Also, I've just found out that Robert Kubica has been disqualified from the results for his car being 2kg under the 600kg minimum weight, due to excessive graining on his tyres, thus losing weight from the tyres. See story here:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=36972

That means Schumacher gets 1 Championship Point for eighth place, narrowing the gap between him and Alonso to ten points.

Here's the revised result then:

HUNGARIAN GP RACE RESULT

Hungarian Grand Prix result (70 laps)

1. BUTTON Honda 1h52m20.941s
2. DE LA ROSA McLaren +30.8
3. HEIDFELD BMW +43.8s
4. BARRICHELLO Honda +45.2s
5. COULTHARD Red Bull +1 lap
6. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota +1 lap
DQ. KUBICA BMW +1 lap*
7. MASSA Ferrari +1 lap
8. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari +3 laps
9. MONTEIRO Midland +3 laps
10. ALBERS Midland +3 laps
11. SPEED Toro Rosso +4 laps
12. TRULLI Toyota +5 laps
13. SATO Super Aguri +5 laps
R. ALONSO Renault +19 laps
R. RAIKKONEN McLaren +45 laps
R. LIUZZI Toro Rosso +45 laps
R. ROSBERG Williams +51 laps
R. FISICHELLA Renault +52 laps
R. KLIEN Red Bull +64 laps
R. WEBBER Williams +69 laps
R. YAMAMOTO Super Aguri +70 laps


* disqualified after car was found to be underweight


Fastest lap: MASSA 1m23.516s

His driveshaft failed, it wasn't something to do with the wheel nut I don't think, even though the wheel looked a bit wobbly and you could see something flying off the hub of the wheel, even though I'm not 100% sure, although Alonso said that it was a driveshaft problem when he was speaking to ITV.

Also, I've just found out that Robert Kubica has been disqualified from the results for his car being 2kg under the 600kg minimum weight, due to excessive graining on his tyres, thus losing weight from the tyres. See story here:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=36972
:



I remeber him saying that as well.
Thats sucks to be Kubita though, lost it through overuse of the tires.

I know, I mean it wasn't his fault that his tyres grained excessively.....I think the stewards shouldn't have really...let him off, as to speak, but not exclude him from the results because exclusion from tyre wear does sound a bit harsh...

2 World Championship points dashed, taken away from him...he's had a bloody eventful debut in F1 lol.

I know, I mean it wasn't his fault that his tyres grained excessively.....I think the stewards shouldn't have really...let him off, as to speak, but not exclude him from the results because exclusion from tyre wear does sound a bit harsh...

2 World Championship points dashed, taken away from him...he's had a bloody eventful debut in F1 lol. I wasn't paying much attention to him but he did very well in the wet.
He could be the up coming Senna or Prost.

I'm just glad Jenson Button won his first race !!!!

I wasn't paying much attention to him but he did very well in the wet.
He could be the up coming Senna or Prost.

Yeah, quite a few people say he will be Alonso good, but we'll have to wait a few years before that happens, as itv.com/f1 said he would be Alonso good.

He shows that he can be quick aswell, because in Hungary he had a spin from eighth place, went down to fifteenth, spun again, knocked the nosecone off, pitted, and got himself up to seventh place with an extra pit stop, and that is quite remarkable (only to be then disqualified by the stewards).

Yeah, quite a few people say he will be Alonso good, but we'll have to wait a few years before that happens, as itv.com/f1 said he would be Alonso good.

He shows that he can be quick aswell, because in Hungary he had a spin from eighth place, went down to fifteenth, spun again, knocked the nosecone off, pitted, and got himself up to seventh place with an extra pit stop, and that is quite remarkable (only to be then disqualified by the stewards).

Yeah I wonder how well he would have done without all those accidents.

He would have done pretty well, might have got up onto the podium, because he had the car underneath him to do that (teammate heidfeld finishing in 3rd place).

It's pretty much the same as Nico Rosberg, who finished in seventh place (same as Kubica, but for the disqualification), and he knocked off his nosecone on the first lap of his first race in Bahrain this year, and Williams personnel reckoned that without the pit stop to change his nosecone he would have finished on the podium.

Rosberg isn't performing as well as he was at the start of the season right now. He's languishing back with the Midlands, Super Aguris and the Scuderia Toro Rossos. Perhaps the pressure of being an F1 driver is beginning to get to him.

Yeah I wonder how well he would have done without all those accidents.
I think we need to see him on "normal" racing conditions (no rain, no crashes) before we can say he is "alonso good". Don't get me wrong, he did a good job but this was his first race.

He would have done pretty well, might have got up onto the podium, because he had the car underneath him to do that (teammate heidfeld finishing in 3rd place).

It's pretty much the same as Nico Rosberg, who finished in seventh place (same as Kubica, but for the disqualification), and he knocked off his nosecone on the first lap of his first race in Bahrain this year, and Williams personnel reckoned that without the pit stop to change his nosecone he would have finished on the podium.

Rosberg isn't performing as well as he was at the start of the season right now. He's languishing back with the Midlands, Super Aguris and the Scuderia Toro Rossos. Perhaps the pressure of being an F1 driver is beginning to get to him.

Could be, pitty though more competion is always good.

Also I found Mark Webber will be moving to Red Bull.
http://www.formula1.com/news/4788.html
It sounds good, I'v alway though of him as a good driver with a bad car.

Rosberg isn't performing as well as he was at the start of the season right now. He's languishing back with the Midlands, Super Aguris and the Scuderia Toro Rossos. Perhaps the pressure of being an F1 driver is beginning to get to him.
Maybe the Toro Rossos are not performing very well but Liuzzi is a great driver, he has done a great job considering the car he have.

Could be, pitty though more competion is always good.

Also I found Mark Webber will be moving to Red Bull.
http://www.formula1.com/news/4788.html
It sounds good, I'v alway though of him as a good driver with a bad car.

Me too. I mean, the reliability (or should I say unreliability) record that Williams has had is laughable. Nine retirements for Webber and countless more for Rosberg out of what - twelve races? Williams really need to pull up their socks with Rosberg and Wurz because it's stopping them showing their potential to the crowd. On at least two ocassions, Webber was challenging for a podium - in Monaco and in Hockenheim - and the car let him down. I don't think anybody could understand the amount of frustration that Webber must have been going through.

As for him going to Red Bull Racing, at first, I was against it, thinking he should have gone to Renault, because sometimes Red Bull have been languishing down in the latter half of the field, but then I changed my mind a bit, what with all the new personnel, experience and decent feedback from Coulthard, and the Adrian Newey RB3 next season (every car he makes turns to gold) that Red Bull could be at the sharp end of the grid.

I also agree that the competition is stiff with Kubica - but he has proved himself a little bit - that he can battle through the field and finish in the points (but for the stewards.)

Well, being so relaxed in Cyprus, we totally forgot about this GP. We walked into the bowling alley finding the last 6 laps on the big screen, Pedro tailing Shumacher. Assuming Shumacher was leading the GP we quickly supported Pedro. Suddenly it came up that Button was in the lead, and we were shocked! When we saw Heidfeld take 3rd we were taken a back.
When we called my Grandfather after, who informed us that,
a) Button had started from the back
b) both Renaults broke down
c) it had been one of the best GP s he had EVER seen
we were quite annoyed with ourselves!

But anyway, fabulous racign from Button!
Consistancy pays off..

aaaaaaaaa...cheeky's back...everyone act normal.......

Well, being so relaxed in Cyprus, we totally forgot about this GP. We walked into the bowling alley finding the last 6 laps on the big screen, Pedro tailing Shumacher. Assuming Shumacher was leading the GP we quickly supported Pedro. Suddenly it came up that Button was in the lead, and we were shocked! When we saw Heidfeld take 3rd we were taken a back.
When we called my Grandfather after, who informed us that,
a) Button had started from the back
b) both Renaults broke down
c) it had been one of the best GP s he had EVER seen
we were quite annoyed with ourselves!

But anyway, fabulous racign from Button!
Consistancy pays off..

And it was definately the best GP I had ever seen....ever:)

And also Fisichella spun on the slippery tarmac, smashed the back of his car into the tyre wall, rescued it but then later stopped on the racetrack.

2 memorable things of this race was all of those shards that flew when the STR and McLaren produced, and the other is Vitantonio's reaction when he was in the pits, like what the hell is happening to me, kimi running in the back of him that was great stuff feel bad for both of them though.

I missed that race, does anyone know where i can Download it, or watch it online?

There's news on it at www.itv.com/f1, but because it was a week ago, click 'F1 News' on the left hand side and then that will give you all the stories about it.

It was a really good gp and really good that Jenson won

I missed that race, does anyone know where i can Download it, or watch it online?

here dude , torrent...
F1 2006 Hungarian GP (SpeedTV, XviD-mp3, 700MB) avi (http://www.mininova.org/tor/388647)