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frewin1987
Sep 07, 2006, 7:24 PM
who here thinks it'd be amazing for there to be no regulations on F1 racing?! imagine how powerful and light the cars would be, and how good the handling would be... wow!! think about the downforce that could be created man.. imagine using the fans underneath the car that suck the F1 car to the floor like Chaparrel used on their 2J race car.. that had enough suction power for the car to stay on top of the roof upside down!! wow. imagine the g-force on the poor drivers... i think they'd even black out lmao!! wow.. some feedback here would be great. imagine how amzing it'd be seeing the real pinnacle of racing technology. 0-60 in 1 second wooo!! lmao

clutch
Sep 07, 2006, 7:31 PM
I appologize for offending.........but this is a very stupid idea.......I say this with current technology in mind. IF F1 was unlimited around 14 drivers a year would die, and about 50 would be hurt in some way. How can I chose more than 22, well, replacements would almost be a weekly basis kind of things. With today's technology, this would seem very dumb, but i see in the future your idea to happen, if they inorporate ejection seats and things along those lines.

Think of the NASCAR Racers cartoon, if you have ever heard of it.

Anyways no way jose, as a fan sweet but as a driver and a guy who cares.....helz no.

frewin1987
Sep 07, 2006, 7:43 PM
nah, i aint heard of that, i aint from america. no offence, but i hate nascar and indy car racing.. its around a simple track.. how boring to watch and how easy to race. a 9 year old could do it. not sure they'd end up in once piece tho.. lol

porsche944
Sep 07, 2006, 7:47 PM
nah, i aint heard of that, i aint from america. no offence, but i hate nascar and indy car racing.. its around a simple track.. how boring to watch and how easy to race. a 9 year old could do it. not sure they'd end up in once piece tho.. lol


Ugghh.... HOW WRONG YOU ARE... I'm not wasting my time with you..

frewin1987
Sep 07, 2006, 7:54 PM
hey bro chill out, its my opinion u dont need to get mad over it.. peace

porsche944
Sep 07, 2006, 8:00 PM
hey bro chill out, its my opinion u dont need to get mad over it.. peace

Not trying to get mad, but its people like you that's make everyone in Europe (or any other country you live in) think NASCAR is just simple, big track and a 9 year old can do it...That's so wrong

clutch
Sep 07, 2006, 8:54 PM
both of you should stop before it gets out of hand if you need to settle a feud PM each other

Ghalos
Sep 07, 2006, 9:34 PM
Well, SCF's here to educate, and while Nascar's got alot of stuff up it's sleave that people don't pay attention to, nobody wants to listen if you *do* try.

Mopar68 made a thread about his "Nascar Odysey", I'd suggest reading it, it's very good.

No regs? Hmmm...Some rules are needed, to keep things competitive and "lively", but, it's a bit strict as is now. Oh well.

AWDfreak
Sep 07, 2006, 10:41 PM
That would be outlawed, just like Group B. Man, I love Group B rally cars.....

bennyboy
Sep 08, 2006, 1:04 PM
No regulations?

It would cost around a billlion million trillion pounds a year and Mr. Gree-apologies, Mr. Mosley will be having none of that now will he?

Of course everyone would like to see 5000bhp F1 that do 0-60 in one second, but unfortunately it's not going to happen, but the fans sucking the cars down to the road, I'm loving that idea.

monkeyfkker
Sep 08, 2006, 1:06 PM
0-60 in 1 second wooo!! lmao
If you want to see 0-60 in LESS than 1 second just turn on some Top Fuel racing...

nah, i aint heard of that, i aint from america. no offence, but i hate nascar and indy car racing.. its around a simple track.. how boring to watch and how easy to race. a 9 year old could do it. not sure they'd end up in once piece tho.. lol
My sister races a little sprint car around a little simple dirt track. They're only half the speeds of Nascar. A 5 year old should be able to do it right? lol... Come to America so I can watch you kill yourself the first time you TRY to go around a turn in one! lol... You're an ignorant simpleton who has NO experience with race cars and you want to talk **** about Nascar and Indy racing? lol... Top Nascar drivers make millions of dollars a year. If it's so easy to do why don't you come over here and show us... I've been road racing for many years and you know what? It's harder to control a Top Fuel rail for 5 seconds under the G forces they incur than it is to race on a road course. You need to quit posting your imbecilic 'opinions' that aren't based on anything near experience and spend some time reading threads and learning. I personally don't like watching Nascar on TV but I LOVE seeing it in person. Simple and easy... you make me laugh! lol

Dimitris
Sep 08, 2006, 5:24 PM
what about add a rocket luncher(spelling) to F1 racing cars?? lol

Juggernaut
Sep 08, 2006, 5:49 PM
If there were no restrictions and rules some firms would go under very quickly - at the very least small manufacturers like Ferrari since they want the championship evry year so badly they would end up spending all the money they had in F1 R&D and go PHUT!!!

Top teams would be spending $1 Billion per annum or much more instead of the current top end money of $300 Million thats being spent by some of the teams. And surely surely the stock values of the gobal auto industry would take a massive hit as a consequence but many automakers would n't simply care cuz to a substantial number of them the prestige of winning a F1 championship ranks higher than stock value. But I guess if such a scenario had been implemented we would end up with only Toyota and Honda - as they are the only ones who are fully capable of supporting an F1 budget many times more than their current levels

Testdriver
Sep 08, 2006, 5:50 PM
do you shift gears in nascar? i never heard or seen it before... i know its just an opinion but dude, nascar is simple... for me all the cars look alike..

bennyboy
Sep 08, 2006, 7:12 PM
I'm preety sure you shift...is there a gearstick and a clutch? :confused:

I'm not exactly sure.

crossle 32f
Sep 08, 2006, 7:20 PM
No restrictions, huh ? Then you would have to find radio-controlled operated dummys to drive these "cars" because nobody with a brain would accept.

OK,next....

vmax
Sep 08, 2006, 8:54 PM
I've thought about this idea a couple of times but at the end had to dismiss it. The costs would be extortionate causing teams to go bankrupt and the speeds and g forces involved would surely serverly harm the drivers. So in the end you end up with no drivers or teams which wouldn't make a very interesting championship at all.

clutch
Sep 08, 2006, 9:15 PM
NASCAR racecars have a four speed manual transmission(clutch and shifter). Gear ratios vary depending on tracks and NASCAR usually mandates the type of gear you may run.....aka gear ratios. Hope this helps.

AWDfreak
Sep 09, 2006, 2:23 AM
NASCAR racecars have a four speed manual transmission(clutch and shifter). Gear ratios vary depending on tracks and NASCAR usually mandates the type of gear you may run.....aka gear ratios. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info, I thought they used automatics.....

It won't happen. Anything w/ no restrictions would be stupid and useless. They're fast enough anyways, why make a car fast enough to kill you at the first turn, even faster?!.....

wesleypipes
Sep 10, 2006, 8:28 AM
frewin , you do NOT have the ability to drive a 3500 pound car at 200mph , and you are 16 , claiming someone of 9yrs is capable?

wow...I could have been a 20 year nascar veteran by now.

no regs in f1 is like saying to a drag racer 'yeah it's ok if you dont wanna put a rollcage in your car'

so circuits like Road America and Watkins Glen are simple are they?
yeah right...and I'm the alien from the Roswell Autopsy.

McLaren-Mercedes
Sep 11, 2006, 7:26 PM
Back in the awesome F1 days there was an F1 car with a fan underneath, Niki Lauda raced it and i think it was a brabham from memory, read about it in Lauda's biography. He said when he first took it for a spin on the test track he found that it was better to accellerate approachig a corner rather than brake, it just sucked itself down so hard. They got away with it by saying it was just a cooling fan that just happened to be placed under the car. But of course when the FIA saw how good it was it was banned after it's first race :(

RIP Brocky

wesleypipes
Sep 12, 2006, 1:15 AM
Back in the awesome F1 days there was an F1 car with a fan underneath, Niki Lauda raced it and i think it was a brabham from memory, read about it in Lauda's biography. He said when he first took it for a spin on the test track he found that it was better to accellerate approachig a corner rather than brake, it just sucked itself down so hard. They got away with it by saying it was just a cooling fan that just happened to be placed under the car. But of course when the FIA saw how good it was it was banned after it's first race :(

RIP Brocky

There have been a few 'fan' cars made and they are quite unique but when it comes down to it , you could have a magnetic track with magnetic cars on it...the fact of the matter is...

MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS.

No matter what category of racing , there have been accidents , fatalities , broken bones, crushed metal and even spectator fatalities. An object travelling at high speed , attached or unattached to anything will come undone...it's only a matter of time.

Example...The CLK-GTR and Le Mans Porsche GT3 both flipped due to wind resistance among other things , thus proving...in the shortest sense...

MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS.

What happens when a fan car comes undone? if the best way to take a corner is in the apex at a higher velocity , what if the fan system short circuits or the electronics in the car fault out?
a higher speed = a higher speed accident...regulations are there to stop these issues becoming a reality.

(contradictory statement) A fan car on the Nurburgring would be interesting though.

bennyboy
Sep 12, 2006, 12:42 PM
There have been a few 'fan' cars made and they are quite unique but when it comes down to it , you could have a magnetic track with magnetic cars on it...the fact of the matter is...

MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS.

No matter what category of racing , there have been accidents , fatalities , broken bones, crushed metal and even spectator fatalities. An object travelling at high speed , attached or unattached to anything will come undone...it's only a matter of time.

Example...The CLK-GTR and Le Mans Porsche GT3 both flipped due to wind resistance among other things , thus proving...in the shortest sense...

MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS.

What happens when a fan car comes undone? if the best way to take a corner is in the apex at a higher velocity , what if the fan system short circuits or the electronics in the car fault out?
a higher speed = a higher speed accident...regulations are there to stop these issues becoming a reality.

(contradictory statement) A fan car on the Nurburgring would be interesting though.

It would be seriously, seriously cool if fans were introuduced though, hairpins at 100mph!

But yeah, what if, at a 200mph corner, the fan did short circuit, and it snapped straightforward and it was somewhere like Monza, very small gravel run off areas, and straight into the barriers, could cause a very nasty crash, or even a death.