China's gone now, Alonso critices Renault of not wanting him to win the World Championship, and while all that was happening, Schumacher takes the lead of the championship for the first time this season, although they are on level points, 116 a piece, Schumacher's race victories (7) means that he is ahead of Alonso, who only has 6.

Renault can not afford a DNF here. If Alonso DNF and Schumacher wins, he will take a record breaking eighth world title, and adding to his illustrious career.

Renualt are going in the right direction, and so are Honda, with Davidson being fastest in P1 and Fisichella being fastest in P2 over a soaked Suzuka circuit. This is the last Suzuka race, possibly forever on the F1 calendar, so soak it all up and get ready for what could be the championship decider.

P1
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37608

P2
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37613

Thoughts on qualifying and the race?

Mmmm....well
lets see what happens..Renault say they are faster than the Ferraris and Ferrari say vice-versa..should be good

Alonso wants it to stay dry, because Renault believe they are faster than Ferrari in the dry, which I don't really believe. Ferrari have shown what they can do in wet races, so wet or dry I don't mind, but another wet race for Button to show hand wouldn't do a lot of harm:)

i hope schumi wins.....hes so dedicated....he has made so much money and could have walked away from f1 years ago but kept up the hard work and showed the world what he had to offer....i hope he wins his 8th title on the way out of f1 and into the history books....

good luck for the world champion

^Exactly what I want to happen. It's all out attack from Renault now. They're on the back foot and on the verge of losing the championship. Alonso hasn't done the job.

C'mon Schumacher!

So Alonso is argueing with his own team? Thats never a good move. As soon as you do that the mechanics start to be no longer 100% behind you and then it becomes a problem. I hope they manage to put it behind them but critising your own team in public is not going to benefit anyone.

^I know. I reckon he should actually get on with the racing instead of b*tching about his mechanics and how he felt 'alone' at Indianapolis and in China. Do what Schumacher's doing, shutting his mouth about other drivers and getting on with the racing. That seems to work.

Alonso claims there are no problems within him and the team, I reckon he's just saying what he thought about Renault before he goes to McLaren. But he's in no position to say stuff like that, if it wasn't for Renault he wouldn't be World Champion.

if there is a mechanical failure with the renault,alonso will drive the car rite over his pit crew followed by the ppl in red and finally kill schumi.no matter how schitty it gets,he shudn't accuse his own team of sabotaging the car.c'mon that's lame.
i see schmi holding the cup and sumhow i also see a ferrari and a renault in the sand by the tyres.
wish it's both. :p
hard work(team) and determination...wins
[insert driver here]

Yeah, Alonso can not afford a DNF otherwise it's basically championship over for him. And they're engine are on the second of their two race cycle, and Alonso revved his like crazy in China, which could be a factor.

But to the pit stop, people make mistakes, yes, that mistake was unfortunate, but they're humans, humans make mistakes and sometimes mechanical parts fail, that's life, and yes, like you said, he should never blame it on his pit crew. In F1 you have to put the rough with the smooth and get on with the job in hand.

Qualifying is just over

1. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:29.599

2. Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:29.711

3. Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:29.989

4. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:30.039

5. Fernando Alonso Renault 1:30.371

6. Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:30.599

7. Jenson Button Honda 1:30.992

8. Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:31.478

9. Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:31.513

10. Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 11:31.856

11. Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.827

12. Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW 1:31.094

13. Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.254

14. Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 1:31.276

15. Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:31.943

16. Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:33.750

17. David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 1:32.252

18. Robert Doornbos RBR-Ferrari 1:32.402

19. Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:32.867

20. Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:33.666

21. Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:33.709

22. Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda No time


Come on Schumi!!!

Qualifying is just over

1. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:29.599

2. Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:29.711

3. Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:29.989

4. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:30.039

5. Fernando Alonso Renault 1:30.371

6. Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:30.599

7. Jenson Button Honda 1:30.992

8. Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:31.478

9. Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:31.513

10. Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 11:31.856

11. Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.827

12. Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW 1:31.094

13. Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.254

14. Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 1:31.276

15. Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:31.943

16. Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:33.750

17. David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 1:32.252

18. Robert Doornbos RBR-Ferrari 1:32.402

19. Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:32.867

20. Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:33.666

21. Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:33.709

22. Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda No time


Come on Schumi!!!
Some people weren't carrying very much fuel...
Kubica is well down, but I think he'll come storming through, like the last 4 GPs.

What in the name of all things holy are Ferrari doing?

Letting Massa get pole, Schumacher is starting on the dirty side of the grid! We all know what happened in Turkey, why the hell didn't they tell Massa to slow down? Geez, it's Ferrari's race to lose tomorrow. Bad decision. I still reckon Schumacher will win, and hopefully he will, but do Ferrari have a brain? They need Schumacher on pole, and Massa to back him up, not the other way round.

The Toyotas did well, I'm happy for them, but I'm disappointed at Honda. They spent the last five minutes of the session doing jack sh*t, and they should have been out on the track posting lap tmes. I guess they're carrying a lot of fuel. Schumacher/Button/Barrichello is a dream result, or Button/Schumacher/barrichello will do just fine:p

^^ Massa can be on pole when he is faster, it's only fair. They can't really tell him to slow down, that's just not right.
This is the kinda' thing Alonso was talking about. What's the point of slowing down for someone else, that's not sport, it's just pointless.

Mm...yeah, I suppose you're right, the guy who's fastest deserves pole position.

But I think Schumacher should win the race, that's only fair. I like Massa, but he can't take the win and reduce Schumacher's chances of the the championship.

^^ We know Ferrari won't let Massa win...unless they have too..

Some people weren't carrying very much fuel...
Kubica is well down, but I think he'll come storming through, like the last 4 GPs.


didn't they did the same last year? jiji

^^ It's something to do with Honda owning the circuit :s

i know Cheeky jiji let see if Honda does the same next year....

Uh, but next year, it's moving to Fiji? which is Toyota's circuit

yes so maybe Honda will do the same.... anyway they have beat them in almost all races......

Not long now, 2 hours left til race starts on tv. So, who do you think is gonna win? btw- is this the last GP of the season or have we got 1 more to go?

Brazil is next. Well i love the Toyota team but i cant ask much. i just hope they do a great race and Speed finish well. But i think Massa could win but knowing Ferrari Schumi may...

Yeah, but i thought team orders have been oblished...?

I think Fisi might do well this race, but you're right, smart money is on Schmacher. But, Ferrari may be running light on fuel. I see Flavio Briatorie (however u spell it), Renault Team Boss is complaining about is car being blocked again. Its getting like football...

yep. i know about the team orers ban but u know they will do something to put Schumi in front... Flavio may have his reason but in my point of view is stupid. is just Qulf. If u have a faster car prove it in the race where the points are stake....

exactly, they should stop moaning and just get on with the job. Heaven knows their paid enough. Mclaren have been quiet this season... which is strange, maybe they'll do better next year, although I dont feel Alonso is all he's made out to be imo. Kimi is the better racer, even Button...

17 laps remaining and SCHUMI on the lead and it's engine give away....

:( :( this is so f****** stupid.... championship go bye-bye..... hope a miracle comes next race.......:(

yep. Alonso has a 10pnts lead now. lets see what happens in BRAZIL

2006 Japanese Grand Prix


Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 1 Fernando Alonso Renault 53 Winner 5 10

2 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 53 +16.1 secs 1 8

3 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 53 +23.9 secs 6 6

4 12 Jenson Button Honda 53 +34.1 secs 7 5

5 3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 53 +43.5 secs 11 4

6 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota 53 +46.7 secs 4 3

7 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 53 +48.8 secs 3 2

8 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 53 +76.0 secs 9 1

9 17 Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW 53 +76.9 secs 12

10 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 10

11 4 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 52 +1 Lap 13

12 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 52 +1 Lap 8

13 15 Robert Doornbos RBR-Ferrari 52 +1 Lap 18

14 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 15

15 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 52 +1 Lap 20

16 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 51 +2 Laps 21

17 23 Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda 50 +3 Laps 22

18 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 48 +5 Laps 19

Ret 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 39 +14 Laps 14

Ret 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 36 +17 Laps 2

Ret 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 35 +18 Laps 17

Ret 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 20 +33 Laps 16

Fastest Lap:

* Provisional Results

What an amazing race. Alonso first, 10 points :) and what a moral booster. Just shows that you should never give up.
Kubica didn't do as well as expected though, even after the whole 'get Heidfeld' speech.

It's weird, though, because when Schumacher was pitting my mother & I were sitting there thinking about him having a problem...and he did...

Toyota did perform well.

The amount of money spent on that team; they should do well everytime.

money doesn't allways mean to win ......

No, but they have the biggest budget in F1 and all they haven't really shone this season. Toyota are putting billions in and getting nothing out.

I'm p*ssed off, and if I make any rash comments I apologise.

1. Toyota are crap, end of. Like Cheeky said, they're putting billions in and getting nothing out. They have race winners in their cars. They have one of the most powerful engines on the grid. They're getting beaten by people who shouldn't be beating them, budget-wise. 2007 isn't going to be any different. They need some good drivers soon or get some results because they're wasting billions and billions of pound on nothing.

2. Red Bull are crap. Give me five good reasons why they're not. DC is an absolutel legend, what the f*ck were McLaren doing in selling him? Stupid t*ssers. Red Bull are nearly as bad as Toyota. They have billions of pounds and instead of making a f*cking decent car they make boats in Monaco for their team leader to jump into, and they waste money on useless crap like that instead of making a bloody can that can challenge for points. I mean, being beaten by Super Aguri, a team which didn't even exist this time last year. They're lagging in 17th place right now. How they expect to get podiums regularly next year I don't f*cking know. They haven't got a hope in hell. They're so far back with development. Minardi had passion, but RB have none. They get beaten with last year's car, the Toro Rosso, which is not a good think. So, Christian Horner, stop f*cking about, get Newey to design a decent car and stop skinny dipping in swimming pools in Monaco.

3. Alonso didn't deserve to win. He doesn't deserve the championship, not one bit. He b*tches about other drivers instead of getting along with the racing. You don't see Schumacher doing all of this crap. And Schumacher's the bad guy?? Pssh, give me a break. Alonso's the googy goody and he gets away with calling other drivers crap, his team crap, and everyone still loves him. Where's Schumacher in all this? Oh, he's kept his mouth shut and got on with the racing. Isn't it funny how Alonso says all this crap about Schumacher and renault when he's leaving Renault this year and Schumacher's retiring? Hmmm.......
If he wins he doesn't deserve it. Today, Schumacher should have won, Alonso should have come second. Yeah, I know engines fail, it's life. But some things are down right not fair, and today was one of them. We're talking about a World Championship here. Massa should just go barge Alonso off the track in Brazil, maybe that will wipe the smile off his face. Yeah, I'm being really negative, but I actually like Alonso. A lot. It's just all these silly little things that he does, and they don't need to be said. If he keeps quiet, nobody will know what he's thinking, only himself and he may get that extra little bit of respect that sometimes he deserves.

As for the rest of the race, well done to Button, and the Super AGuris. Beating Red Bull, who's drivers happened to retire today. And Toyota showed their crapness today by holding one another up and everyone passing them. I knew I sniffed showboating.

God, I feel so much better now.

3.
1. Alonso didn't deserve to win.
2. He doesn't deserve the championship, not one bit.3. He b*tches about other drivers instead of getting along with the racing.
3. You don't see Schumacher doing all of this crap. And Schumacher's the bad guy?? Pssh, give me a break.
4. Alonso's the googy goody and he gets away with calling other drivers crap, his team crap, and everyone still loves him. Where's Schumacher in all this? Oh, he's kept his mouth shut and got on with the racing. Isn't it funny how Alonso says all this crap about Schumacher and renault when he's leaving Renault this year and Schumacher's retiring? Hmmm.......
If he wins he doesn't deserve it.
5. Today, Schumacher should have won, Alonso should have come second. Yeah, I know engines fail, it's life.
6. But some things are down right not fair, and today was one of them. We're talking about a World Championship here.
7. Massa should just go barge Alonso off the track in Brazil, maybe that will wipe the smile off his face. Yeah, I'm being really negative, but I actually like Alonso. A lot. It's just all these silly little things that he does, and they don't need to be said. If he keeps quiet, nobody will know what he's thinking, only himself and he may get that extra little bit of respect that sometimes he deserves.

As for the rest of the race, well done to Button, and the Super AGuris. Beating Red Bull, who's drivers happened to retire today. And Toyota showed their crapness today by holding one another up and everyone passing them. I knew I sniffed showboating.

God, I feel so much better now.

1. Your first comment is totally out of order. It's not about what you deserve in motorsport it's about what happens. Alonso was 2nd, and if the 1st place's engine goes, obviously you're guna be 1st. You have to be second in the first place!

2. It's Alonso's job to win, to come first, and he did it, you can't say he's done wrong for that.

3. Oh, so now it's OK to cheat and knock people off is it?

4. He didn't call Schumacher 'crap' he just said what a lot of drivers would want to say.

5. No he shouldn't, if your engine blows up, then that's it fair and square. If Alonso had pushed him off, now that's another story.

6. Life isn't fair, Alonso's engine went the other week, from what your saying, that's not fair either.

7. I don't think Massa specialises in cheating, do you?

He called Schumacher ''the worst sportsman in the world.'' So that's basically crap. If somebody drew me a picture and I said ''that's the worst drawing in the world'' that basically means it's crap.

Schumacher bagred somebody off more than ten years ago. I don't think that is relevant in this championship battle.

Next year, Alonso won't be champion. I can guarantee you that. I reckon Raikkonen will. McLaren are going to have a verrryyy difficult time adapting to the Bridgestone tyres. They're gonna have so much wear on the front because of Alonso's aggressive turn-in style. Raikkonen and Button I reckon will be challenging for the championship. Alonso is out of there. he should have stuck with Renault. But apprantely they're crap, so he left. He's gonna have a hard time, but like you said, if that's what happens, that's what happens.

I said at the start if I make any rash comments I apologise, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was just expressing my opinions, and I have a right to do that.

Cheeky is right imo. bennyboy, I know you are angry but you imply that bitching, which is all part of the mind games of F1 which have been there since around day dot, is not execeptable but punting another driver off the track deliberatly is ok? Thats an interesting perspective you've got yourself there. Also Red Bull have pretty much given up on this season and put full effort into building next years car, Newey is designing a new car, its called the RB3 and its going racing next year.

Its harsh luck for Schumi but overall it was a great race and I'm happy Alonso won.

^^ Yes you do, but I feel that most of them were kinda unfair.

Schumacher is a cheat...end of. It will be a pleasure to watch the sport when he leaves. In my Opinion.

That was aimed @ Bennyboy btw

Also, Schumacher isn't really a sportsman, he's a cheating one.

schumi a cheat??
how come,everything is fair in a game.as long as u r not caught breaking the obvios rules.he is a great sportsperson.i too began to hate him.but i realised...what for?coz u just can't beat him.what he does,he does to come first.now others can't do it...so they r in competent and not schumi being a cheater.wudn't u do anything to come first.or will u just wait for ur leader's engine to fail.

^^ I'd rather know I fairly overtook someone, than just knocking them off

well...guilt is sumthing sports personalities don't feel.it doesn't matter if they run over the opponent or knock him out.winning is the most important thing.that too in a sport like this.image, u go round n round bout 40-50 times'a track,put in ur full effort,if u see ur been overtaken,won't u do anything to get back to first place?or will u jus wait an push n push n push till u spin off into the grass?

No, surely, you have to race and let race, I haven't seen Alonso push anyone off recently...

he doesn't have to.he is better than the bunch.have u seen alonso or schumi move in a pack along with their rivals.they are always way ahead.3-4 second lead.all alonso has to do is try to keep up with schumi.rest r easy for him to overtake.he is better than the rest but not better than schumi.that's why hez always in the between.pushing as hard as he can to catch up with schumi n beat him.

schumi a cheat??
how come,everything is fair in a game.as long as u r not caught breaking the obvios rules.he is a great sportsperson.i too began to hate him.but i realised...what for?coz u just can't beat him.what he does,he does to come first.now others can't do it...so they r in competent and not schumi being a cheater.wudn't u do anything to come first.or will u just wait for ur leader's engine to fail.

Exactly. Do you think that Alonso would have won if Schumacher had had an engine failure? Hmm, don't think so.

Cheeky, If Alonso was the experienced veteran who has had slip ups in the past, and Schumacher was the revelling talent coming through, I bet you would say Alonso had ruthlessness to say at the top, and Schumacher is just a kid who need to go back to school.

There's something you really really hate about Schumacher, and I can't put my finger on it.

^^ I don't like Schumacher, he cheats, and I guess he's always been the rival. Always coming first unjustly...F1 was so boring because of him..and I didn't like it.

^ The various incedents Schumacher has had over the years have tarnished his reputation for me over the last few years which is why in my reckoning he will never be on the same level as Fangio, Stewart, Clarke, Moss, Nuvolari, Prost or Lauda. Why? Because they were the true gentleman of the sport, yes they had there moments just like everyone but it never resulted in them punting another car off or parking a car across the track.

They knew where to draw the line between competitive racing and losing their rag and doing something stupid. This is a problem that Schumacher has and that he often goes to far and then he lacks the character and/or flair to get the public back on his side. Thats how Senna became a legend, his flair was legendary (that and he sadly passed away in a crash)

This may not be that coeherant, mainly because its all a bit thrown together but its my couple of cents.

the crowd is jus dere to watch....they can't get rid of an f1 driver because he can't appeal to them.lol.

So if Schumacher isn't a gentleman, who is?

Alonso may be a candidate, but some comments have been out of line and that's ungentlemanlike.

B*tching, I can stand, like you said, it's part of F1, but calling a driver ''the worst sporstman in history'' is a little out of order.

Like I explained, I like Alonso, it's just these silly things he says that don't need to be said that annoy me.

^ ok, thats fair enough. That statement is a lot more reasonable than your previous one and I think it would be good at this point to agree to disagree ;).

One I will say is that I could never class Schumacher as a gentleman after what he did to Hill, Villeneuve and the other drivers at Monte Carlo qualifying. I'm sure the members of the old guard would not have done such things.

Senna did the same thing, taking out prost in the final race, on purpose to win the championship.... and yet you call him a great leyend, and a gentlemen. PLEASE they are all the same, its racing and thats it.... if you are the number one driver, then you will get the most attention, and will do what you have to do to win a championship.

^ I deliberatly left Senna out of the gentleman drivers list because of that incident in Suzuak and the numerous others he was involved in. Senna was just there to prove that if Schumacher had more flair certain members of the publics view of him would be a lot different.

jus coz hez dead makes him more popular.if schumi died,he'll be a legend too.same as all the ppl who die early.

the difference between senna and schummi is that schummi is a living leyend, everyone on the planet who has a tv will know who schummi is, they will know senna, but he died, so yes, schummi is a leyend while living.

This is like compairing who is better, Pele or Maradonna.

zeyk, funnily enough, if any of you read Car magazine there is an article which says that very thing. I read it the other day and its very interesting.

hmmm.....lemme c if i can get that article.hey who likes alonso here?
any reason why they like him?
i really wanna knoe....

I believe he is a very very good driver, he has carisma, and when it rains the man for sure knows how to move the vehicle. Now the dilema, I have been a fan of ferrari since my grandfather sat me to whatch a race over 20 years ago.. so i much rather have shcumachaer win than alonso, but any other case scenario I think he is a great driver, and probably will be one of the greatest.

you know what I am going to make a poll of it.........and by the way yeah Alonso should go to hell..........imo.:)

I heard Shumi hasn't had an engine failure in 6 years. If true; I feel better about the marlboros I have smoked. Money spent on engine development begat reliability...

ya,that's true.but the unfortunate part is that it had to fail on this particular race.i hope that renault's engine fails 2morrow.i hate mild seven.

jus coz hez dead makes him more popular.if schumi died,he'll be a legend too.same as all the ppl who die early.

That's true, but if you put Alonso and Schumacher at 22nd on the grid, Senna would probably come through the pack quicker that Schumacher. Quite a large part of Schumacher's success is the people he works with. He's been lucky to work with Pat Symonds and Ross Brawn and Jean Todt. Ferrari is not a team. It is a family. When Schumacher went back to the garage after he blew up in Japan, he went to all the mechanics to comiserate them, and some of them were nearly in tears. Now, you never see that with Alonso, do you? Schumacher has worked his way into the Ferrari family and everything works perfectly well within the team, and I think that's something that Alonso is lacking. Yes, Schumacher is massively talented, but some may argue that he has been helped along just a little by the people he has been fortunate to work with.

^^ Schumacher brought those people to the team...it's a right place right time thing.
Ferrari was doing badly until he appeared

Yeah, tell me about it, they were really in the doldrums, hadn't won a drivers title for around 20-30 years and then when Schumacher joined, boy did things change.

Instead of going to some on form teams, like Williams, he went to a team that was struggling, and he recognised the potential, and turned them into some dominating force.

If he had gone to Williams I reckon he would have ended up like Villeneuve, and him and Michael are leagues apart.

now how many ppl have the potential to take a whole team to victory.how many ppl have the talent to change the fate of a team.i bet even if alonso goes to ferrari,he won't be able to do what schumi has done.hell maybe no one can.or maybe if senna came back from the dead or maybe if stirling moss is 22 again.

Alonso's going to have a tough time at McLaren, what with his driving style and the Bridgestones, and that really showed in China, where his front were worn to the bone, they were nearly like slicks.

I think one of the people that has a real bond around his team is Button. Everyone seem to love him there, he's been there for a good few years now, and they've achieved wins and a third place in the World Championship Standings. In 2007 I reckon they'll be in the hunt if they don't do a 2006.

hahah......alonso in mclaren will be a threat to the aguris and the rbr team.lol

^Pretty much, although not with the Aguris..don't get too carried away!:p

I reckon the BMW's will be challenging them regularly for around 5th-6th place, Honda regular podium finishers and so will be Ferrari. I fancy a 2004, but with Ferrari playing second fiddle to Honda.

^^ I don't like Schumacher, he cheats, and I guess he's always been the rival. Always coming first unjustly...F1 was so boring because of him..and I didn't like it.



how does schumacher cheat.....i notice one thing when people earn a record like his....they either love watching him win because everytime its new and exciting....or they just say he cheats because they like some other driver and he keeps winning...

take into account the passion he has for motorsport.....he has made MILLIONS OF DOLLARS...and still went into every season and trained and raced as hard as he could....he could have walked away at any moment but his passion runs through him.....if you cant see that then i dont know what to say...


like you said before in racing its what happens at the end of the race....at the end of his career he has won 7 world championships....set records at every track...provided us with as much excitment as someone covered in gas playing with matches....what more do you want from him.....if he bumps someone off once a year hes a cheat.....no way....things happen in sports like this.....


dont hate on him because he is the best.....thats just pitiful.

if schumacher wins next race and him an alonso tie....what happens??

If Schumacher wins in Brazil, and Alonso fails to finish, Schumacher will take the title, on a virtue of race wins, because Schumacher will have 8 wins and Alonso would have 7 wins.

how does schumacher cheat.....i notice one thing when people earn a record like his....they either love watching him win because everytime its new and exciting....or they just say he cheats because they like some other driver and he keeps winning...

take into account the passion he has for motorsport.....he has made MILLIONS OF DOLLARS...and still went into every season and trained and raced as hard as he could....he could have walked away at any moment but his passion runs through him.....if you cant see that then i dont know what to say...


like you said before in racing its what happens at the end of the race....at the end of his career he has won 7 world championships....set records at every track...provided us with as much excitment as someone covered in gas playing with matches....what more do you want from him.....if he bumps someone off once a year hes a cheat.....no way....things happen in sports like this.....


dont hate on him because he is the best.....thats just pitiful.
Yeah but that's not what I hate him for..I don't commend people who barge other people off the circuit.

But do you commend people who blame their team when things go wrong for him?

He didn't blame his team at all
He simply said that some people don't want him to come first because they don't want 'No. 1' going to McLarem

Surely Renault wouldn't give a stuff, they just want to win both championships, it's only a number, who cares?

PS how come McLaren get the number one, not Renault or Ferrari?

Alonso takes it with him..

Oh yeah, silly me.

But I reckon he's going to have a hard time, but everything is unpredictable....

i will bet that raikkonen flys by alonso.....

i hope he flies INTO alonso...:P

Schumi will win. they will have a new engine so they will just power it up to its limit for one race....

Renault and Ferrari are at the Jerez test, seeing if they can squeeze every ounce of performance from their cars. ALl Ferrari need is a the opposite to what happened in Japan, which is definitely possible. Everybody thought Schumacher would win the race, but he didn't. Everybody thinks that Alonso wins the championship.

He may not.

It's still on.

i wish the people from the crowd jump into the track and sabotage his car.or maybe flip it or destroy it...:p

Very reasonable, zeyk:p

I reckon that the majoraty of people will be rooting for Schumacher, so Brazil better have some strong fences.....

brazil used to be a ferrari stronghold for barrichello but he moved to honda so massa will have quite a lot of fans so they might help schumi as well

True, Massa will have a lot of support.....a lot of support to barge off Alonso from the track. The Toro Rosso's will go well in Brazil aswell, with the low end torque of the V10 giving them better acceleration out of the many slow corners.

I can imagine Massa slipstreaming Alonso on the final lap, down the pit straight for 8th place....oh baby:D

i wish that was true but how would they both end up in 8th and 9th in the first place?

I don't think Massa wants to cheat

^I reckon you're right there, but he wants Michael to win the title.


Felipe has got to find the fine line between helping Michael and actually cheating.

And Overdrive, they probably won't end up in ninth or tenth places.....but a nosecone change for both at the start wouldn't do a lot of harm would it!:D

no it wouldn't;)

It was all over the papers, Massa should barge Alonso out, so Alonso better watch out, the championship is not finished, not by a long shot, he better be aware, and Damon Hill's told him to be aware, Schumacher hasn't give up.

Let me explain.

After the race, he told everyone that he had conceded the drivers title to Alonso, but he well knows that he could win if the opposite happens in Brazil, so this has essentially put himself in a win-win situation.

Nobody is 'expecting' Schumacher to win, so if he does, everybody will love him even more than we already do. If he doesn't win, he hasn't disappointed anyone, and he retires on the end of a glorious career.

Either way the championship goes, he's a winner.

^^ He has given up, he said it on international TV...

I don't think Massa wants to cheat
this is where talent comes in.it's a test for him.to be able to do what his team-mate can do.
^^ He has given up, he said it on international TV...
some times u don't need a cup to be a winner.sumtimes u don't need to wear a crown to be a beauty queen.he'll remain a champ always.he doesn't need to be seen on that podium.

^^ He has given up, he said it on international TV...

Did you just read what I said?

Everyone thinks he's given up. Like I said, he's put himself in a win-win situation.

You've got to be pretty dum to assume Schumacher's given up.

Do you call whittling down a 25 point deficit to take the lead in the championship over the summer 'giving up'?

^^ He has given up, he said it on international TV...


great idea for alonso to think he has and let up a little bit only to watch schumi pass him........


what happens if there is a tie???

I think I said before, but what the heck..

If Schumacher wins and Alonso doesn't score any points, Schumacher will take the title because he was won 8 races and Alonso has won 7.

Jens aiming high for 2007...

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37702

Well then he's a liar and a cheat

How does that make him a liar and a cheat?

Alonso's a liar and a cheat then.

At Indianapolis he said Renault had the best car.

So now he's a liar.

It's called reverse psychology.

8-)
Was just proving a point

Yeah, I see your point aswell:)

this can go on n on n on on on..bwah!

^It probably will zeyk!:p

alonso is just going to win the world championship for definet