Next year people, next year! Dodge is rolling out the Hemi driven Magnum station wagon or 'sports tourer' as the markering people like to call it. The cocnept car on the autoshow circuit is 85% accurate to the production version. The Ram's bringing it back to the basics in a very radical, wickely cool way. It's a good move, in my opinion, after the P/T Crapper. What do you guys think of this buff wagon?

http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2003_la/magnum/FrontFullView.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2003_la/magnum/3_4Backw_Trees.jpg

Odds are they wont sell hardly any of them. For one thing, I'm willing to bet that they will be way overpriced, so familys wont buy them, only the upper class could afford them, and what the hell do the upper class want with a station wagon, they can always just get the Audi RS4. Its still a pretty cool car in my opinion, but I'm waiting for the price on it, and how much horsepower does it have anyway?

I don't like station wagons. BTW, what's 'HEMI'?

A Hemi is a chysler engine in the 50's and ended production in the early 70's. Chysler now brought it back in 2001 in there full size truck, and have yet to put it into a car, were it belongs. Sure, they made a couple of concepts with the Hemi, none of which i really like. But thats later in this post.

The Hemi is probaly the best production engine ever made. I couldn't honestly tell you much about the early Hemi, but i can go on and on about the 426 Street Hemi. The 426 got the most horsepower per cubic inch (425hp, compared to chevy's 454 with 390hp) and it was a relativly inexpensive option for most chylser cars. The Hemi uses a simple idea. It uses Hemispherical Cylinder heads and pistons. This raised the compresion ratio to unfathomable heights, 10:1 at least. This created a teribble problem though, at least now a days. It used alot of fuel. It could run good on high octane leaded fuel, but it would knock with the unleaded fuels of today.

I think the Hemi station wagon concept is ok. It has straight ahead looks and a no non sense engine. It uses the best car platform ever, which is the staion wagon. It uses the most space. The downside of the Hemi Wagon is that the color is really drab. A station wagon has about the same appeal as a minivan. And it still needs to be refiened a little more. It's too boxy. Now the Chysler Hemi 300C concept would work better. The Hemi and the 300 series go together like frosting and cake. The 300C is still boxy, but it's a luxary car, so it works (a.k.a Rolls Rocye Phantom).

Odds are they wont sell hardly any of them. For one thing, I'm willing to bet that they will be way overpriced, so familys wont buy them, only the upper class could afford them, and what the hell do the upper class want with a station wagon, they can always just get the Audi RS4. Its still a pretty cool car in my opinion, but I'm waiting for the price on it, and how much horsepower does it have anyway?

More stuff:

#1. The cars full name will be the Dodge Magnum SRT-8
#2. Sorry I didn't post this ealier! The car is packing a Supercharged 5.7-Liter Hemi V-8 that produces 430 bph @ a really really low 5600rpm and 480lb-ft of torque @ an even lower 4k RPM!
#3. Yeah, it weighs 2 tons even, but it breaks the 5 second barrier from 0-60 mph by three tenths of a second.
#4. I think it's an insanely excellent alternative to f-ing SUV's. How many Lux and just plain expensive SUV's do you see on the road? too many, this isn't an illegitimate car in my opinion. But yes, we will have to wait and see. Fingers crossed :mrgreen:

Yeah, I guess it could be cool dude, cuz I do hate SUV's. :evil: ALOT!!!! :evil: Cuz most people dont even use them other to drive their kids around. And a cool station wagon might change that, but still, why are you dissin on Luxery cars...I wish I had one :( Oh well, until then EVO POWER!!! But yeah, it still a cool station wagon, they just better not screw people over on the price. Cuz thats alota horsepower!

I don't like station wagons. BTW, what's 'HEMI'?


I am sorry i dont really mean to be rude, but you have a picture of a Viper and you dont know what a Hemi is? The Hemi has to be in my opinion the pinnacle American performance. And every American should be ashamed if they dont know what a Hemi is.

I don't like station wagons. BTW, what's 'HEMI'?


I am sorry i dont really mean to be rude, but you have a picture of a Viper and you dont know what a Hemi is? The Hemi has to be in my opinion the pinnacle American performance. And every American should be ashamed if they dont know what a Hemi is.

Ahm, way to read stuff, like LOCATION! Jimkk29 is from Athens, which is in Greece. I don't appreciate blatant ignorance too much. :roll:

Look, not EVERYONE in America is into the Car scene. Thats totally stupid to think every American should know some, basically obscure fact about a car. Heck, look at when Mopar68 was talking aobut the girl walking out of seeing 2 Fast 2 Furious and reffering to the Challenger and Camaro both as Mustangs. Yeah, watch Jaywalking sometime, see how much Americans know about American history.

Yeah thats true dude, not everyone in America knows what a Hemi is, but I can tell you that 100% of American's that are ON THIS SITE DO! Hes on a car website, devoted to cars that go really really damn fast. You would think he would have the BASIC knowledge as to know what a Hemi is. Thats like not knowing what a rotary or a Vtec is. Theres just common knowledge that every car nut has. And WE ARE ALL car nuts here. And yes he may be from Athens, but he does have a Viper for a picture, American performance at nearly the highest pinacle. Its a DODGE too, Dodge was reknowned for the Hemi. So come on dude, know the facts! :twisted:

yes, the hemi is associated with dodge, but it has been used in dodges and plymouths for a couple of years. Chysler was using the hemi in there cars nearly a decade before the 426 street hemi came out. And yes, every american in here should have at least heard of a hemi. You'd be suprised, almost nobody knows why it's called a Hemi.

I like to concisder myself a Car enthusiest. But I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING. Neither does anyone else, I'd hope!! I'm sorry you are all judging people on your standards and think you can assume others perspective followed by more judgement.

Some people are just coming into the scene, some are just now expanding their knowledge ouside what they come upon in day to day life, like MYSELF! There is such a vast sea of automotive history in every corner of the world. Diffrent people have diffrent priorities. I spent the first 3 years I had acess to the internet researching Japanese cars. I didn't know what a Hemi was, I didn't even think I'd heard of it before I met my current room mate. My sickness ofr cars has since surpassed his and I'm learning more and more about the American car industry than i ever imagined. I was totally set on insane output, small displacement cars, I-4's or bust :mrgreen: I ignored everything else. I'm now merely increasing my knowledge so I can better form opinions and know whats 'what' and whats 'not'. Sorry, I'm just very edgy when it comes to premature, unadulterated, and ignorant negativity towards others.

Isnt it cuz the piston heads or something are hemisphereical. I know something is hemisphereical! I'm just a 17 year old dude so my knowledge is limited. And thats another thing, I've only been in the car scene for about 2 or 3 years now, and I still know what all that crap is. I can see if all he liked was import's, or exotic cars. Then he may overlook the Hemi, but he likes the Viper...which in my opinion, they should find a way to make a V-10 Hemi, which would rock to the max, but anyway, I cant remember what I was talking about, so I'll just stop now. :twisted:

Hehe, I forget alll the time. Yeah, he's got a pic of a Viper, it's a cool, fascinating car. I could have an avatar of a VW Phaeton and still know nothing about other Vee Dubs though. Wheres the fault in that, if there is any at all? We all asssume too much still though

I saw the car(not in front of me :P, in pictures).I think that the Americans didn't get a car more beautiful than that.What about the engine??I didn't see any Hp word or cc??

Sorry man, i just assume that all americans know somehting about the hemi or have heard of it. I'm not saying you have to know it's history. We went two diffrent paths. I spent my whole life devoted to the american big block. But you've spent you time researching japanese cars. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not judging, i'm assuming. I think your getting my messeges all wrong Raith. I'm not a snotty, know it all brat like you might think i am (key word is might). Please don't put me in that category. I know way to many people like that, and they aren't god people, trust me. I, like yourself, don't know everyting there is to know about the automobile. I will never know everything. And i don't judge people who have just entered "the game". I welcome them. Like my 10 year old brother. I don't critisize hime for not knowing alot about cars. I teach him what i know, and he listens. What i do have a problem with people who think a car is great, and would appose you to the grave, even if you prove them wrong. I think i lost myself talking, and i think by now you have to, so i'll stop. Lets just get back to talking about this Hemi wagon concept, and not how i judge people, ok.

Sorry, I have assumptions and judement very closely entwined in my mind. Wow, i need help maybe. I also apologise if I seemed to give off any negative energy. I get very frustrated when I think soemone is being is respected or put down, even if its justifed in one way or the other. So yes, back to the car :P

Well, Schumi, I posted the power output and Liter displacement, sorry I don't have CC's. And I hope I'm not alone in feeling that your insanely huge sig. pictures are taking up a bit too much space than is really neccisary. Maybe you could trim those down a little, mmm?

it looks great for a station wagon, but station wagens arent my type, and it would be awfull if there are just station wagons driving around, instead of Ferrari's or Dodge Vipers, :P


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i don't really like station wagen's well abset the bm and that one :D

Sorry guys, but I do need to respond at some things.

1. I'm not from America, I've never traveled to America, and I've never seen a Viper up close, but just on pictures.
2. I just put the image (full size picture is here (http://www.highresautoimages.com/1280/dodge/gtsrconcept.jpg)) because I liked the image and the colours in it and the agressiveness of the model, and not because I believe the Viper is the best car ever made. In fact, it's not. I like it, but I could go on and on giving you a huge list of better cars than the Viper.
3. I strongly believe that the Viper has not a HEMI engine, otherwise I would have most probably heard about it.
4. Not knowing what a HEMI is, that's not actually like not knowing what a rotary or a VTEC are. That's because the latter exist all over the world, whereas cars with HEMI engines circulate 99,9% in the US.
5. I'm sorry to disappoint some guys here, but outside the US, words like 'rotary' and 'VTEC' are much, MUCH more popular than 'HEMI'...

Yeah, thats another thing I was going to say. HEMI isn't world renowed as much as you would all like to think it was. Sorry if it seemed trying to talk FOR you Jim, I just have too much time on my hands I guess, hehe :lol:

No problem dude, you're a nice guy as far as I can tell. :D