Who do you think will win the f1 champ next year?



IMO i think its Alonso =D

My vote is for Massa.

Alonso. Schumi won't be there and Kimi will get prawned by bad luck as usual.
I guess either Massa or Kimi will be second, but Alonso takes the cake.

I still think Alonso won't win the title.

I'm still going for Jenson Button. C'mon Honda!

i might change my mind because of the alonso's new team. I must say im a fan of mclaren but with the unreliable mercedes engine that always break down, i might go with Massa.

This will prove whether or not Alonso is really what everyone thinks he is. Can he revive a team like Schumi did for Ferrari? On another note Massa is still at Ferrari and he is already used to the Bridgestone tires. I'm also looking forward to Nurburgring Nordschliefe.

Massa. i just hope Toyota could challenge

I still think Alonso won't win the title.

I'm still going for Jenson Button. C'mon Honda!
true....alonso is jus too harsh on the car.amd the poor fragile mc larens cannot take that kind of beating.atleast the mp4 21 cudn't.let's hope the 22 will put an end to the reliability issues.
as for drivers...hmmm.not much of a driver side supporter.my money is one kimi or massa.manufacturers....either ferrari or mclaren mercedes.

well mclaren DID say that there new engine from mclaren will be more reliable....


i just can't find the site for the proof.....

Kimi's vote for me! He's on a better team and won't have to deal with a **** pit crew and an unreliable engine. I think he'll take it

Kimi's vote for me! He's on a better team and won't have to deal with a **** pit crew and an unreliable engine. I think he'll take it


Mclaren doesn't have a **** pit crew.....and mostly its just the engine... but everything else was well planned!

dude its not the engine anymore.... look at the failures they have had this year... theres only like 2 engine failures...i think they were not true engine failures because de la rosa's in monza just was that they engine just shut up... then montoya's in the nurburgring, i think, was real. most of the failures were down to driveshafts and throttle gremlins.. look it up. www.formula1.com look at 2006 season anfd check it..

Its difficult because who knows who's going to have the best chassis next year... i think that the drivers will go to a ferrari driver because of tyre knowledge and the constructors to McLaren because of the team line up and whatnot

did kimi have an engine failure this year?? NO!!
Bahrain: podium
Malaysia: Klien hit him, spun off
Australia: podium
Imola: points
Europe: points
Spain: points
Monaco: Heat Shield Failure (not an engine part because of black smoke)
Britain: podium
Canada: podium
Indy: crash
France: points
Germany: podium
Hungary: crash
Turkey: crash... One of the toyota's hit his suspension, broke a lap later
Italy: podium
China: throttle failure, not engine
Japan: points
Sao Paolo: points

NO ENGINE FAILURES IN ANY PRACTICE OR QUALIFYING SESSION EITHER

what im trying to say is during practices the engine always screw up...... and dont get mad at me for my opinion...

did kimi have an engine failure this year?? NO!!
Bahrain: podium
Malaysia: Klien hit him, spun off
Australia: podium
Imola: points
Europe: points
Spain: points
Monaco: Heat Shield Failure (not an engine part because of black smoke)
Britain: podium
Canada: podium
Indy: crash
France: points
Germany: podium
Hungary: crash
Turkey: crash... One of the toyota's hit his suspension, broke a lap later
Italy: podium
China: throttle failure, not engine
Japan: points
Sao Paolo: points

NO ENGINE FAILURES IN ANY PRACTICE OR QUALIFYING SESSION EITHER
Also i read about reviews from www.formula1.com (http://www.formula1.com) (forgot when) that the reason to Kimi didnt win the championship was "due" to the unreliable mercedes engine which always blew up during pratices.

Alonso is driving the mclaren next year, so he doesn't have the best car anymore. I think Kimi has a good chance of doing well, the renault is a good car, and he is a good driver.
massa has a chance as well

Alonso is driving the mclaren next year, so he doesn't have the best car anymore. I think Kimi has a good chance of doing well, the renault is a good car, and he is a good driver.
massa has a chance as well
Are you trying to say that kimi is in renault????? coz kimi is actually in ferrari for your information!!!

get the facts right before you post.

I'll vote for Kimi because I like his name.

I'll vote for Kimi because I like his name.
Thats not a good way to judge if he's going to win or not..but who cares..its UR opinion :D

I still think Massa has a shot of winning the Driver's Championship. It'll be interesting to see how Kimi stacks up to Massa now that they are driving the same car. I've been hearing rumors about Schumacher being used for scouting out new talent. Can anyone confirm this?

Well, Kimi's new engines only break once in five years at Ferrari.

Alonso should have stuck with Renault. But I don't blame him, I couldn't imagine being a superstar F1 champion and yet have to drive a Megane company car.

Raikkonen and Ferrari is a dangerous partnership. They're bound to at least hit the top 3

^haha, I always thought that was a bit crappy for Fernando, racing around in the R26 for an hour and a half, then jetting off to the airport or hotel in a Megane, I wonder what he must feel like when he gets on the open road with that thing.

I would pick Kimi for the win, but it depends on how well the 2007 Ferrari is. I guess the same goes for Fernando as well, in fact, you could say that the two of them are in quite similar situations, so it'll be interesting to see how it all pans out for both of them.

The fact is that if alonso does have a good car for 2007 and gets used to the less tractioned bridgestone tires then no doubt he would win, but nothing is perfect right?

So IMO kimi would probably hit the top 2 only if ferrari doesnt somehow f**k up there car....which i doubt that would happen.

Thats not a good way to judge if he's going to win or not..but who cares..its UR opinion :D

I'm not really that bothered, mainly because I usually miss the F1 on a Sunday with a hangover.

Still, I do think Kimi will be crowned champion this year. Although his Ferrari doesn't look aesthetically as good (I concentrate on the important thing), like Rav said, Kimi and Ferrari do look a dangerous combination. I didn't get to see much F1 last year so am I right in thinking Ferrari had the better car out of the big 3 of them, McLaren and Renault? Am I also right in thinking that the best car on the grid was a Honda? I don't know why I'm thinking this but I am.

Alonso will finish second and I don't think it will be because of engine trouble. I just think he will be slower than Kimi, all the time. Massa will finish 3rd, Button will take poll in the first Grand Prix but cry before the finish and Lewis Hamilton will have a solid start. I can see it being a good year. So good, I may even stop binge drinking the night before so I can watch it.

Testdriver, he did have engine failures. The throttle mechanism is something to do with how the power is from the engine. And with unreliability...we didn't mean to get that technical. Those were still mechanical failures and you can't afford to do that.

@Rav, spot on. You can't just go to a team and win a world championship. The unreliabiloty will ALWAYS be at McLaren and unless they get something totally totally new I can't see them winning titles.
It will take at least three years for Alonso to win a title with McLaren.

Kimi needs a good kick up the arse. He was lazy and not committed at McLaren, but Todt will fix him into shape.

@Chookes, you can still binge drink, but watch the race with a hangover, things will get oh-so interesting!

i don't really watch f1
but follwed it a bit and read articles
and i vote massa
he won the last race last year
he got ferrari backing him
and hes set the fastest lap times in practice a while back

The Ferrari is just that good. Massa has talent, but he's not one of the most talented guys on the grid. I do believe he is an equisite driver, but he doesn't have the talent of, say, Button or Kubica.

Stick Button in a Ferrari, give him four months and he will be unbeatable.

Alonso should have stuck with Renault. But I don't blame him, I couldn't imagine being a superstar F1 champion and yet have to drive a Megane company car.

Raikkonen and Ferrari is a dangerous partnership. They're bound to at least hit the top 3

I would have thought he would go for the Clio V6 or whatever their big sedan thing is called.

My predictions of top 5 in no order.
Kimi: Ferrari as much as I hate to admit it is a good team and Kimi isn't a bad driver.
Alonso: A great driver, although reliability and new tires might be a problem.
Button: He did pretty well last year and really got his and the cars act into shape at the end of the year.
Kubica: He did pretty damn well from the start last year and with more practice as a driver rather than a tester and a newer car I can see him doing very well.

I think Kimi will under perform... again. He hasn't got the right mentalilty to work well in a team like Ferrari which is structured a lot more like a family than a team. Kimi is too cocky and arrogant to work well there and, possible more importantly, to get the team to work well for him.

For this year I sincerely hope Button and Honda get their act together and can show consistant wins. Button certainly has the capability to do it.

I dont think Kimi is that cocky and it wont get in the way of him working well with Ferrari and winning the championship. I think that Alonso will have a bad season and Button will have his best because he definatly has the talent and Massa will do ok
Kimi
Button
Massa
Alonso

didnt Button get kicked out of the driver seat because he had an injury???

Yes, fractured ribs, I believe.

didnt Button get kicked out of the driver seat because he had an injury???

He's only missing the first few test sessions, he isn't being 'kicked out of the driver seat' i.e. being replaced, or anything.

I dont think Kimi is that cocky and it wont get in the way of him working well with Ferrari and winning the championship.

Kimi is cocky and arrogant. He was the only driver not present at the special ceremony put on for Michael Schumacher at the Brazilian grand prix and a few minutes later on live tv he said he wasn't there because "he was having a sh*t"

Now this shows blatent disregard for others and a lack of respect. As much as I don't like Schumacher he sure does deserve respect due to all the feats he has achieved and his nearly always professional attitude.

Going from someone like Schumacher to someone like Kimi who openly slags off his team in the press when results aren't up to scratch will be a big step for Ferrari and I'm not sure how Ross Brawn or Jean Todt will take it. They may see it as a cue to retire.

I think Kimi will under perform... again. He hasn't got the right mentalilty to work well in a team like Ferrari which is structured a lot more like a family than a team. Kimi is too cocky and arrogant to work well there and, possible more importantly, to get the team to work well for him.

For this year I sincerely hope Button and Honda get their act together and can show consistant wins. Button certainly has the capability to do it.

100% agree, exactly what I think. Like I said before, he was lazy at McLaren and Todt needs to give him a good kick up the arse and get him into shape. It's something somewhat of a culture clash with a Finn in a Ferrari. Finns go well with McLarens....

If he doesn't get his bum into gear this year I don't think he ever will, because he's getting on a bit, 27 and he needs to get moving.

And I'm with you on the last bit. Button is my favourite driver on the grid, and he's got the talent to go all the way, and if Honda can get that to him, it will be awesome.

People agree wiht me, I think Kimi is way to icy to ever win a championship, he hardly ever talks or anything...He hasn't got the charisma

Neither would you if your car failed as much as Kimi's, and evern your own teammate crashed into you twice when you were looking good for a podium.

besides kimi always get drunk in publicity and theirs always headlines about him!

but Ferrari insisted he should drink not as much.

Neither would you if your car railed as much as Kimi's, and evern your own teammate crashed into you twice when you were looking good for a podium.

And when, precisely, has that happened?

Man, I'm surprised JB even got 7 votes. He's a helluva driver, really, but Honda has GOT to get on the horn with someone about that damn car!! The engine is great, yes, but the rest of it needs some serious TLC. If he had a great car to drive on (give the big H 2 or 3 more years to remember how to win races) he would definitely be a contender, but with the way it is now, I'm not so sure he will even make top 3 or 4. It would be good, and I'm rootin' him on the whole time, but I don't see it happening.

Yes if Honda could get better Button would deffinetly be in contention, i think he will do very good next season but i think it will also take about 2-3 years before the car would be good enough to win a championship

Yeah, I see next season and maybe the season after that as a learning experience for the Honda team. I do earnestly wish that Sato wasn't gone. He was my favorite.

I'm actually mostly Finnish, and I should be rooting for Kimi, but he was SO much better off with McLaren. He fit thier persona a lot better...and I hate Ferrari, so, you know.

*Edit* Isn't it funny how nobody is rooting for Rubens? Ha. I don't particularly like him.

"And when, precisely, has that happened?"
this year (only in races)
Malaysia - crash w/ CK
Monaco - Heat shield failure

INDY - HIT BY MONTOYA (thats why he is now in NASCAR)

Hungary - crash w/ DLR
Turkey - crash
China - Throttle problem (retired)

there are many more failures in qualifying/practice/testing/last year I haven't mentioned.

so all of you people are saying that kimi raikkonen won't slack off in Ferrari as he did in Mclaren?

From what I've seen happen to other drivers, yes.

If nothing bad car wise happens to him at the start of the season,i dont think that he will slack off.

"And when, precisely, has that happened?"
this year (only in races)
Malaysia - crash w/ CK
Monaco - Heat shield failure

INDY - HIT BY MONTOYA (thats why he is now in NASCAR)

Hungary - crash w/ DLR
Turkey - crash
China - Throttle problem (retired)

there are many more failures in qualifying/practice/testing/last year I haven't mentioned.

Get your facts straight, in your post you specifically said that all his teammates crash into him, well that's obviously not true, you just specified that Klien crashed into him, and then in Monaco he had a heat shield faliure, now I'm no expert but I'd say a heat shield or somebody driving for a different team does not class as a teammate.

And your Indy statement is damn right b*llocks. Montoya never deliberately crashed into him. The STR's were shuffling at the front of that bunch and they tangled. Raikkonen, who was right behind them at the time, braked suddenly, and Montoya, who was around three inches behind his car, clipped him. It is physically impossible for somebody to brake from 30mph down to a safe speed to stop in three inches. Get your facts straight.

And that's nothing to do why he is in NASCAR. He chose to go to NASCAR not because he clipped his teammate, it was because he was bored with the team and the car and wanted a change. Just because you clip somebody your career is not over.

And in Hungary....again a load of balls. Do you have any idea what you're saying? he never even touched de la Rosa. Kimi was following Liuzzi when Kimi misjudged the width of the car, tried to pass, didn't turn enough and smashed into the back of the STR. de la Rosa was actually just following Kimi. He never even touched him in that race.

In Turkey, he crashed, and in China he had throttle problem, again I do not recognize those things as ''teammates.''

Judging by your lack of knowledge in these posts it looks as if you have never watched an F1 race in your life. YouTube.com will help you find out what really happened...

hahahaha.... your soo right benny!

get your facts right before you post TBR 427!

well, about the engine reliability, i see it as a excellent improvement over the powerful but unreliable V10 from 2005. Also the Mercedes V8 has come a long way since blowing up every other lap during winter testing, months before the season start. I also think that the Mercedes V8 is one of the years best: general reliability of the engine, power, and ability to rev high.. I saw a clip from imola, with kimi qualifying at 21k rpms... thats quite high... some other engines like the honda, toyota, or even renault cant operate normally under those conditions...

The problem,IMO, with mclaren these years is their inconsistency... example.. in 2003 they were strong, but then, in 2004, nowhere to be seen.. exactly like 2005 and 2006. I think that alonso will bring the desired consistency to the team. Also the renault secrets, such as the famous renault launches at the start of the race. Hamilton will also bring change.. But i cant count on all of this for mclaren to be successful. It will be revealed in January 15 in valencia, as the 2007 challenger hits the track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD5RtpLiUB0
there we gooooo. i cant stop watching the F1 engine rev... coool