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bennyboy
Aug 24, 2007, 7:06 AM
After an agonizing three-week long break, F1 returns, here in Europe, for the Turkish GP held from Istanbul.

Two year's ago, on the track's debut, Kimi Raikkonen dominated this race with pole position and a win, and he needs to repeat that feat this weekend if he has any chance of winning this year's World Championship. Unfortunately, he did not go on to win the title in 2005 and he hopes it will not elude him this year.

His Ferrari team-mate, Felipe Massa, really needs to win this weekend if he has any chance of going for the title. Numerous non-podium finishes and a 13th place (speculative that it was all Ferrari's fault about the fuel) in Hungary meant he has not taken advantage of one of his best title challenges yet, but he really need to.

But, even though the McLaren boys have not been shadowed in the last few races, they have a tough job here. Alonso leading the championship table from Alonso by 7 points, but it is looking like the Istanbul Speed Park is starting to favour the F2007 more than the MP4-22. With things running highly competitive, it should be a good race.

So, who will come out on top this weekend? Will it be a Red Riot or a Silver Showdown? Find out over the course of this weekend.

Practice 1, Ferrari dominate:
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40396

Post away, guys and girls!


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PS there will be no poll for this race, any more opinions on the poll are much welcome.

sonicadg
Aug 24, 2007, 7:18 AM
After what DC said, i want Massa to win more, this track wasn't too kind to Kimi last year, lets hope massa can out run him, or Kimi can't finish.

As for McLaren, i know practice usually doesnt show any direction in which the race is going, but a second is a big gap. So i think i'm right in saying Ferrari have a clear advantage.

As for Titanic Honda, well its going to be hard now to make a good come back, but for this race i think they will be just on front of Super Aguri.

Scuderia-F430
Aug 24, 2007, 9:23 AM
Yea ferrari is doing a good job. VIVA ITALIA

bennyboy
Aug 24, 2007, 9:33 AM
I reckon Raikkonen has the best chance to win this race (providing his car doesn't break down AGAIN), because he is the Ferrari driver on best form, and judging by practice times he really is flying. A Ferrari 1-2 on Sunday is very, very possible.

sonicadg
Aug 24, 2007, 9:35 AM
Lewis rains in Kimi Parade.

Heres the result, fresh of the press,
http://www.sportscarforums.com/gallery/data/500/results.jpg

bennyboy
Aug 24, 2007, 9:38 AM
Now that is interesting. Maybe Ferrari are sandbagging or that the McLaren's superior pace has come into play. Ferrari have been known not to give it all during practice, and then belt out poles and wins, I wonder if that is the case here. But, McLaren showing that Ferrari are not going to walk all over them this weekend, which is good.

P2 report:
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40403

Button still down in 14th though, and Barrichello 15th. :(

Timbit
Aug 24, 2007, 10:08 AM
Button still down in 14th though, and Barrichello 15th. :(

Better than behind the Spykers, eh? ;) hehe

Toyota's did alright then. 3rd and 4th, may or may not be a sign of weekend form. Practice has a tendency to only show the slightest of trends though, so it's still anyone guess until quali.

bennyboy
Aug 24, 2007, 10:22 AM
Yeah, them finishing behind the Spyker in Hungary was really embarrassing. :( Hopefully they will find some form for qualifying but I have a bad feeling that both of them [Button and Barrichello] will get knocked out in Q1.

sonicadg
Aug 24, 2007, 10:31 AM
No, i have a good feeling for Honda this time.
Yamaoto did very well to get so close to Sutil, after a very short time in the car

*#turbinas#*
Aug 24, 2007, 12:08 PM
Honda will do well in this race. I hope so.
I think that Hamilton will take the lead in the qualifyings. We will see it. We don't know who will be the pollman.

I see BMW so low. What happened? Kubica is 10th an Heidfeld 13th. Go higher guys. I hope BMW to be on 4th and 5th place. Or higher. :p

Beaver
Aug 24, 2007, 12:50 PM
I dont like to read into free practice results but we may be in for another Kimi v Hamilton battle.

I hope Honda get there act together at least a little bit this weekend.

Nemphis
Aug 24, 2007, 7:01 PM
So what Lewis rained on Kimi's parade I ain't worried lol.

Sooner or later Lewis has to have a DNF surely so anytime this season will be fine McLaren ;).

I might not be able to watch the Qualifying or the race because I have a wedding to go to soo I will be busy tommorow morning and I will be a bit hungover on Sunday afternoon.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Aug 24, 2007, 10:38 PM
i doubt hamilton will have a DNF. Well maybe one or two DNF's but this years mclaren car is really strong!

sonicadg
Aug 25, 2007, 6:23 AM
Practice 3
Hamiliton holds of Massa by 0.041

and Honda, thank god are not at the very back again
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2007/781/6434/

sonicadg
Aug 25, 2007, 1:09 PM
sorry, double post, just no ones posting

grid
1. MASSA Ferrari 1m27.329s
2. HAMILTON McLaren 1m27.373s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m27.546s
4. ALONSO Mclaren 1m27.574s
5. KUBICA BMW 1m27.722s
6. HEIDFELD BMW 1m28.037s
7. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m28.491s
8. ROSBERG Williams 1m28.501s
9. TRULLI Toyota 1m28.740s
10. FISICHELLA Renault 1m29.322s
11. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m28.002s
12. WEBBER Red Bull 1m28.013s
13. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m28.100s
14. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m28.188s
15. WURZ Williams 1m28.390s
16. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m28.798s
17. R SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m28.809s
18. SATO Super Aguri 1m28.953s
19. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m29.408s
20. SUTIL Spyker 1m29.861s
21. YAMAMOTO Spyker 1m31.479s
21. BUTTON Honda 1m28.220s*



Button gets sent to the back of the grid after engine penalty
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40438

Also, all the drivers reactions to qualifying
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/8/6667.html

*#turbinas#*
Aug 25, 2007, 1:59 PM
Hm. Interesting results. I didn't see the qualifyings here cause we have so many news about the fires. I hope tommorrow to see the race.
Massa is the pollman. Great. Hamilton is second and he has behind his back Kimi. It will be an interesting race.
Kubica is on the 5th place and Heidfeld behind him on 6th. Great. I think that the BMW's were strong against the others.
So i am waiting for the race.
Also i heard that it's so hot in Turkey and this will be a problem to the tires.

sonicadg
Aug 25, 2007, 2:16 PM
^^yeah, its hot.
It was a great qualifying.

That lap of Davidison's was astounding. The guys at super aguri have a bright future. Though it was said Aguri are having a bit of finance problems, i doubt there will be much problem finding more sponsors the way they are going.

I think i'm going to miss the race, i'm going go karts. Though they have a TV there, so i'm pretty sure F1 will be on, since the place is called formula karts.

But predictions, predictions. Massa FTW of course, though with Kimi on the clean side, i think the first corner dash will be fought out between Leiws and kimi.
Then i think its high time Davidson scores a point or 2 here.
Apart from that, we'll have to wait and see.


Oh yes, anyone here that Hamiliton and Alonso now have separate pit garages, as in they can pit at the same time now. i think i heard that right

Beaver
Aug 25, 2007, 2:39 PM
Good for Massa, he needs a good result after Hungary. Wooooh for Lewis! 2nd on the grid will do nicely. I thought it would be Kimi on pole the way he was in Q1 and Q2 but he made a mistake on his last lap. Alonso, why? Everyone else is on softs, the Brigestone engineers say its definately the faster tyre and yet he goes with the harder ones. Well that didnt work and hes 4th so its his fault, he was quicker than hamilton in Q2 and in the start of Q3 so he would probably have beaten him.
Shame for Button, its really not going well for him. Davidson had a stellar lap! I was gutted when he was knocked out but you could see that getting 11th meant so much to him and Super Aguri.

Should be a good race with Lewis sandwitched between the ferraris and Alonso trying to make up a place or two.

bennyboy
Aug 25, 2007, 3:32 PM
Practice 3
Hamiliton holds of Massa by 0.041

and Honda, thank god are not at the very back again
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2007/781/6434/

I missed the talking at the start of the programme and Q1 because I was at snooker (won another trophy today :)) and I was really really pleased to see that Button was in and was as high as sixth before everyone got a lap in. All went downhill from there. Knocked out down to 11th, had a good lap but people kept budging him down. I was quite disappointed to have him in 15th place but somehow I knew that that was going to happen, and lo and behold, his engine has to go tits-up and now he is starting right at the back, which is his worst grid slot ever, and I cannot believe that happened. I doubt he will be able to get some points from there, but as you know I jinx myself on everything so he will probably end up winning now. :p (I hope!)

As for the qualifying, I thought Hamilton had it in the bag but I must say Massa delivered a great lap to get his second Turkish pole in a row. I dunno if he's running lighter than Hamilton or heavier, but it looks set to be a great race, and if Raikkonen doesn't get a clean start off the line and into Turn 1 first, that mistake on his last lap will have cost him this year's championship. You cannot make mistakes like that, compromising yourself in the race if you want to win titles, it's not gonna happen. He starts 3rd and was looking good for at least a guaranteed 1st or 2nd, but as far as I'm concerned that mistake was his own fault.

But not as bad a mistake as Alonso made...why the hell go on hard tyres? The softer ones are faster, but he chose the slower ones? Why the hell do that...it's beyond me. He wants to gain ground and get ahead of Hamilton but he goes and makes stupid decisions like that and he compromises himself in the race, and now he's got his work cut out.

Good laps by the midfield guys aswell, BMW and Renault put in strong performances but one of the teams which were disappointing, both outside of the top ten and they know they have the pace to get in there, but sometimes they have off-days and it doesn't go their way but you never know in a few season's time they could be right up there because they have Geoff Willis [from Honda, grr]

Speaking of Honda, like I said before, things were looking up but then Jenson's engine had to blow and he starts 22nd and Barrichello 14th. At the start of this year it was just unbelievably crap how they never ever got results but it's just become normal to me, if they get consistent top tens next year it will seem like a huge improvement.

Great lap by Davidson aswell, he deserved pole position because of that one, but he got knocked out and starts 11th, but he probably wouldn't have got further than 10th in Q3 so starting just outside, with the fuel strategy of his choice could play into his hands.

Anyway, good qualifying and I am looking forward to the race tomorrow.

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Qualifying report:
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40423

sonicadg
Aug 25, 2007, 3:36 PM
I don't think alonso's tyre choice made a difference really. Someone had to be 4th, and it was him. Simple as that.
But i agree, it was a weird choice, maybe he just felt faster on the hard

bennyboy
Aug 25, 2007, 3:40 PM
I don't think alonso's tyre choice made a difference really. Someone had to be 4th, and it was him. Simple as that.
But i agree, it was a weird choice, maybe he just felt faster on the hard

LMFAO!!!

Sorry it just had to be said. :p

Seems like his intimidating moustache is not doing wonders this weekend...

sonicadg
Aug 25, 2007, 4:00 PM
I actually heard Hamiliton said that he hates facial hair, then out of nowhere, pops a beard and moustache.

also, on moustache watch this week, Alonso goes Mafia with his moustache
http://www.sportscarforums.com/gallery/data/500/moustache_watch.jpg

Beaver
Aug 25, 2007, 4:10 PM
Hey, maybe he was slower because of the added weight of his new facial hair?

He claims that it wasnt just the tires that cost him. Yeah right, he was quickest in Q2, fastest lap, faster than Hamilton all day and he whacks on a set of hards and hes slower than Hamilton, Kimi and Massa.

SpArKy
Aug 25, 2007, 4:42 PM
Good news boys !!! I'm not working tomorrow !!! Well, good news for me at least lol.

But I completely missed quali, and they don't show highlights, which is a shame. But from what I've picked up, it sounded good. Good luck to Massa I say. Him and Hamilton is a race I'd like to see, because they appear to be quite friendly, not all oooo I secretl hate you, or robotic in Rakki's case.

I don't know if yas know yet, but Button is at the back of the grid because of an engine failure, which is crap. He really should leave Honda, in my opinion anyway. He's the sort of man that could make places like William's that much more competitive again.

Also, Alonson makes top 10 in sexy beast facial feature in GQ:

www.GQ.net/sexybeafac3/quote/sex.html

bennyboy
Aug 25, 2007, 5:18 PM
Was that another fake link? Because I clicked on it. :( Lol.

And Button has been confirmed with Honda for next year, but as Damon Hill rightly put it, ''it's a career slipping through his fingers''. He really should be doing better than this and it's a bloody shame has has to be stuck with a crap car that can't last a few laps in qualifying.

About Alonso's moustache, I don't think it looks good. Facial hair doesn't really suit him. More people are getting beards now, Button, anyone seen Benitez's new crumb catcher?

GT King
Aug 26, 2007, 12:05 AM
Qualifying was a great result for Ferrari with both cars coming 1st and 3rd. Although the Mclarens will be fighting hard right behind them in 2nd and 4th so it's another Ferrari/Mclaren sandwich this weekend so it should be an awesome race to watch, can't wait.

As for Alonso's beard, i agree with benny, it doesn't suit him. Although i think it's starting to become the current trend for F1 drivers, Coulthard, Button, Heidfeld and now Alonso have beards.

Btw, nice caption sonic lol.

sonicadg
Aug 26, 2007, 6:26 AM
Im going to go for a long shot, and say, a theres going to be a BMW podium.
It must be scary for the front runners, since one little mistake, and they are going to be eaten up by either BMW. So i think that might happen, with who i don't know, but some ones bound to slip up on turn 8


Plus, the race starts at 1:00, and thats what time i an suspose to get back at. Ekk, i have my own race to get home on time

*#turbinas#*
Aug 26, 2007, 9:50 AM
Damn i will not see the race because the TV says all the time for the fires in Greece. So F1 was delayed and maybe i won't see it. I will go to see live results. It's another way to watch F1.

GT King
Aug 26, 2007, 10:46 AM
Here are the race results of the 2007 Turkish GP:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2462/untitledvq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I've been watching the race through live timing so i haven't seen the full race yet so i'll comment on the race later on when i finished watching it. But from what i've seen so far, it was a great result for Ferrari with both cars coming 1st and 2nd.

AWDfreak
Aug 26, 2007, 11:00 AM
That tire rupture on Hamilton came out of nowhere. Is that his first/second time he hasn't been in a podium finish?

I can just imagine Alonso's happy laughter, LOL.....

SpArKy
Aug 26, 2007, 11:08 AM
Well, his beard wasn't on his face, so it may have been an ambush. If it appears on his face in the next few days, suspicions suspicions.

I'll add something with a bit more substance later on lol, at the minute, I'm busy-ish.

*#turbinas#*
Aug 26, 2007, 11:32 AM
Heidfeld finished on the 4th place. Good. But where's Kubica? Oh. At the 8th place. Why? What went wrong for him? Anyways i think that Ferrari is so happy because Massa finished 1st and Kimi 2nd. That's a great result for Ferrari. The race was good, i think. But i haven't watched it.

!ChEeKy GiRl!
Aug 26, 2007, 12:49 PM
Kubica's strategy mucked him up. Pretty good race, but a puncture really shouldn't be the best bit of an F1 race. It's so boring it's getting ridiculous. You had the Renault team, at the end, pushing Heikki, I'm sorry but there's no way he would have got Hammy, unless as both Kimi & Fernando stated in the interview he had made a mistake.

The BMWs started well, it has to be said, both of them going straight past, then again, so did Kimi, Hammy really had no chance from that moment. Massa was ecstatic of the poudium, was great to watch. Fernando looked rather pleased/surprised too.

The fact that there was only one retirement was good too, these cars are getting more reliable, I like Davidson, a lot, right now, he's doing really well in that Super Aguri, just behind Jensen, which means guys, that the Hondas are doing better..just a lil'.

sonicadg
Aug 26, 2007, 1:10 PM
Well the hondas were at the back, and Davidison was 11th. So to beat him was brilliant.
But darn for Davidison, super aguri desevred another point, but thats how it goes in racing.

It was quite funny today, cause i was in karting, racing away, then whenever i came out, there was a replay of the start straight away, so i didn't miss that. Great start from Massa, he shot away from everyone, phew. then both BMW's got past Alonso, nice one, but if only they stayed on front, my prediction of a BMW podium would of been right.

But what happened Kubica, he was losing places alot, i was strange.
But great drive for Kovy. he got so close to Hamiliton, i really wish he took 5th, cause it would mean a great and well desevred result for him, and a closer championship.

I like what Ron said when asked about Lewis's puncture, "well it makes the champioship closer"

Nemphis
Aug 26, 2007, 1:38 PM
How much luck does Hamilton have ????

If that happened to Kimi I guarantee the wheel would have snapped the suspension or something like that. As soon has I saw it I was like there is no way Hamilton will make it to the pits but he did :|. Seriously that guy has all the luck in the world.

I mean if Hamilton could give me some of his luck I would very much appreciate it.

Anway a 1-2 for Ferrari is damn good, well done Ferrari although I would have been more pleased if Kimi won but I think Massa was the better driver today anyway.

Overall it was an average race not much excitement really.

Beaver
Aug 26, 2007, 1:57 PM
Hamilton has a bit of luck, but not today, yes it couldve been worse but his was the only puncture and he was on for an easy 3rd place.

This will now make it a lot harder for Ferrari to decide if they are going to back one driver because they are evenly matched.

Honda, although they did well coming from the back didnt really do that well, when they are "doing well" and they are only managing mid teen's places, its not going well.

Not too much excitement apart from when Alonso was passes by the BMW's, i was very happy!

Unfortunate for Hamilton though, he wasnt really going to get infront of Kimi but he deserved 3rd.

!ChEeKy GiRl!
Aug 26, 2007, 2:00 PM
Webber is the unluckiest guy in F1. He's had approximately 41 'outs' in 100 races!

Yeah, Hammy was lucky to lose 2 places but he did have a big lead over 4th.

Nemphis
Aug 26, 2007, 2:20 PM
Hamilton has a bit of luck, but not today, yes it couldve been worse but his was the only puncture and he was on for an easy 3rd place.

This will now make it a lot harder for Ferrari to decide if they are going to back one driver because they are evenly matched.

Honda, although they did well coming from the back didnt really do that well, when they are "doing well" and they are only managing mid teen's places, its not going well.

Not too much excitement apart from when Alonso was passes by the BMW's, i was very happy!

Unfortunate for Hamilton though, he wasnt really going to get infront of Kimi but he deserved 3rd.

A bit of luck is this then lol ???:

Narrowly missing the tyre wall at the Euro GP within the first few laps.
Getting picked out of the gravel at the Euro GP.
No punishment for not letteing Alonso past yet Alonso gets punished at the Hungarian GP.
Managed to escape the crash with no real or serious injury in qualifying at the Euro GP.
Today he somehow managed to keep it going without causing serious damage to the car or having to retire.

No doubt there are other reasons for his luck but thats all I can think of now off the top of my head.

You can not tell me that is a bit of luck surely ???


Ferrari will choose Kimi it makes sense really Kimi is a faster driver than Massa even though Kimi has bad luck as a friend lol IMO its a safer option.

Webber is the most unlucky guy in F1. He's had approximately 41 'outs' in 100 races!

Yeah, Hammy was lucky to lose 2 places but he did have a big lead over 4th.

I did not know Webber was that unlucky maybe Kimi isn't the most unlucky driver in F1 then !

bennyboy
Aug 26, 2007, 2:41 PM
That tire rupture on Hamilton came out of nowhere. Is that his first/second time he hasn't been in a podium finish?

I can just imagine Alonso's happy laughter, LOL.....

It's his second time off the podium and it's the second time that his right front tire/rim has had some sort of problem. If he loses the championship because of this, then I will find it baffling/unfair that a driver should lose the championship because his car/tyres cannot cope with the race distance. McLaren could do nothing about this accident because it was Bridgestone's tyre which failed, and I think they're investigating it now.

Heidfeld finished on the 4th place. Good. But where's Kubica? Oh. At the 8th place. Why? What went wrong for him? Anyways i think that Ferrari is so happy because Massa finished 1st and Kimi 2nd. That's a great result for Ferrari. The race was good, i think. But i haven't watched it.

Kubica pitted really early, and he had two early stops and was out of sync throughout the whole race and he got leafrogged/passed on the track by numerous cars. If anything, Kubica should have finished in 5th place, but going down 3 places during a race in a competitive car shouldn't happen; BMW have made a mistake there.

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As for the whole race, it was fun watching Raikkonen hunt down Massa but it was pretty boring apart from that and I agree with Cheeky, it's getting ridiculous that the only excitement we have in a race is a tyre delamination. Hopefully in years to come things will change.

Anyway, I have to say congratulations to Massa because he drove a very professional and a very quick race. He made no mistakes throughout the race and pretty much dominated. Even though Kimi got within 0.7 secs of him today, to be honest there was no touching him today. Like Brundle has said before, once Massa gets out infront he seems to take it to the next level. His levels of concentration and consistently hitting the apexes is next to none and I reckon it's only a matter of when, not if if he wins a world championship. His strategy was good today, and everything just worked out perfectly for him, and for Ferrari for that matter. Hopefully Felipe can win more races because it's great to see him jumping for joy and celebrating his victories. Reminds me of Schumacher...boy do I miss the podium jumps! But yeah, very very good race from Felipe, I think he deserves it.

Raikkonen drove pretty much the same race but didn't really have the chances of the strategy to overtake Massa. Let's face it, if Raikkonen didn't make that mistake in qualifying he would have been on pole and then he would have probably won the race today, but I suppose we can only say that is his own fault because he is the one who made the mistake. 16 points now, behind Hamilton, and he has a hell of a lot of work to do if he wants to win the championship. Ferrari have to go balls-out with each driver in the next five races because it's too close to call to say which one is the better driver and it's been like that pretty much all season. Anyway, good race him for him and more points.

Onto McLaren...McLaren, McLaren McLaren. Everything interesting/controversial/exciting happens to them and their drivers doesn't it? Anyway, I reckon Hamilton should be glad with his save, quite lucky that the tyre didn't snap the front wing off or damage the suspension....5th place after that is quite good for him, and he was looking set for a cemented 3rd place and quite possibly 2nd place, because Ron Dennis admitted afterwards that Hamilton had 5 laps more fuel on board than Raikkonen and he was only 2-3 secs behind him on the racetrack and if he put in some quick laps, leapfrogging him was a certain possibility. Dennis says McLaren will be quick in Monza, which I believe they will be, so in a fortnight's time it is gonna be even tighter, and to be honest I can sense a Schumacher-like revival coming towards the end of the season for Ferrari.

Alonso, by contrast, must be thanking his lucky stars for what he got today. Rubbish start, due to being on the dirty side of the grid and got eaten up by both BMWs but a good stategy meant he could leapfrog both of them in the stops...pretty crucial if he was going to get anything out of the weekend. Pretty much looking set for 4th position until Hamilton's tyre went, and that certainly is a gift for him because he has been off the pace all weekend and finished 20-odd seconds behind the Ferraris which is a lot considering that their pace was nearly equal in qualifying....but now the championship gap between him and Lewis has gotten bigger, rather than smaller and he must be thanking his lucky stars for that, because he truly was very fortunate today. Nearly succumbed to the hands of Turn 8 today, said he went off but saved it and came back on.

BMW, good result for Heidfeld in 4th place, yet more points for him, what a season he is having. Not sure really what happened to Kubica, must have been a calculated risk gone wrong in the pit wall there. Lap 12 is verrryy early to pit from a race, and he just got caught out all afternoon and finished 8th which is a disappointing result by his standards. I reckon if he pitted a few laps later it would have been incredibly close between him, Hamilton and Kovalainen for 5th place.

Speaking of Kovy, what a great race from him, Flav has to be mad not to secure him for next year. He's put in some brilliant drives and nearly caught Lewis but it wasn't to be, but a really great race for him, drove well, scored some good points. Fisi drove well but could only finish 9th..didn't really see him all afternoon on telly from the Turkish director though.

Williams, good with Rosberg in 7th place, yet more points for him, he's staying with Williams for 2008 and rightly so, not sure about Wurz though. He has got a podium, but he is in the same car as Nico and yet he finished 11th today, but I like him and hopefully he stays on the grid next year.

Honda, brilliant drive by Button to 13th, he's getting good at driving through the field. Good strategy and at one point lapping the same as Alonso. Hopefully this will give him confidence for Monza, because he needs it as the car won't be as fast there, as the car is not very aerodynamically capable and Monza is a real aero track, but I'm proud of that drive from him, and so to for Rubens, battling away there, but could only manage 17th which is quite far down the field, but I like Rubens nonetheless.

Trulli spinning on the opening lap was no good for Toyota's weekend, he ended up 16th and Schumacher 12th, and they thought they would score points with both drivers this weekend but it wasn't really to be which is a shame because they are really improving.

Red Bull, really frustrating for Webber to retire, if you don't say he is the unluckiest driver in F1 then you are a complete doughnut. It seems as though everything which could go wrong in F1 happens to him and it's not fair, although his podium finish in Europe was very well deserved for him.

As for the minnows, STR, Super Aguri and Spyker, not much to say about those, Davidson finishing in 14th after a great qualifying lap was slightly disappointing, but nonetheless good racing from those guys.

Can't wait for Monza next week, one of my favourite tracks and with the title battle intensifiying even more, it looks to be great.

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Race Report:
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40446

@Nige, Hamilton escaping his qualifiying crash in Europe was down to the car's amazing safety, it's like Kubica's accident, I wouldn't say he was lucky to survive, because that is what is supposed to happen in a serious crash, the monocoque's supposed to protect the driver, so I guess that would have happened to anyone who crashed.

!ChEeKy GiRl!
Aug 26, 2007, 3:05 PM
Yeah I guess you could say Jensen is pretty unlucky too, I mean, a massive case of wrong place, right time. Anyone else think that Kimi looked pretty bad in the press conference?

Nemphis
Aug 26, 2007, 3:17 PM
Yeah I guess you could say Jensen is pretty unlucky too, I mean, a massive case of wrong place, right time. Anyone else think that Kimi looked pretty bad in the press conference?

Nope didn't see the press conference how do you mean bad ???

bennyboy
Aug 26, 2007, 3:17 PM
He looked shattered just after the race. He looked that way in Malaysia aswell. I guess these races really take it out of him.

Nige, he looked exhausted, his eyes were kinda bloodshot and his face was red and he was sweating like mad.

Nemphis
Aug 26, 2007, 3:24 PM
He looked shattered just after the race. He looked that way in Malaysia aswell. I guess these races really take it out of him.

Nige, he looked exhausted, his eyes were kinda bloodshot and his face was red and he was sweating like mad.

Oh,

I dunno I guess the race took alot out of him, I will after watch the highlights tonight as I missed the last 20 laps anyway soo I will look for myself.

But he always looks hot and flustered anyway after a race.

sonicadg
Aug 26, 2007, 4:27 PM
Yeah I guess you could say Jensen is pretty unlucky too, I mean, a massive case of wrong place, right time. Anyone else think that Kimi looked pretty bad in the press conference?
Yeah he did, he scared me big time.
As soon as the camera went to him, me and my brother said at the same time, "woah, he looks scary"

But i have to say, button had a great race, he might not have finished in the points, but from last to 13th was great for Honda, he made a better leap that Ralf, and the Toyota is a better car.

clutch
Aug 26, 2007, 5:29 PM
By the description of the post-race confrence, I can assume his mumbling hasn't gotten any better?

I did no see the race, and it looks like it wasn't an exciting one. I am glad Ferrari pulled off a 1-2 finish and its sad that Lewis has been podium free once again. Its even sadder that Alonso got 3rd ahead of Nick, I just don't like him at all anymore.

Hopefully this is a show of things to come for Ferrari, as I hope they can get the constructors championship. I still want Lewis to get the drivers championship though.

Beaver
Aug 26, 2007, 5:35 PM
I dont see that happening to be honest, if Lewis gets the drivers championship the constructors will most likely be McLarens by that time.

bennyboy
Aug 27, 2007, 8:29 AM
I didn't hear Kimi speak in the post race interviews because ITV's coverage didn't have enough time left, but I would be sure there were a few mumbles because he looked totally out of it...whereas Hamilton and some of the other drivers looked fresh as a daisy, by comparison.

*#turbinas#*
Aug 27, 2007, 12:26 PM
Thanks guys for the info about Kubica. Bad strategy from BMW. Anyways i think that it was a good race. Next race will be better i think. Monza, Italy.

bennyboy
Aug 27, 2007, 5:07 PM
Kubica was probably on for about 5th or 6th place, but traffic and a bad stategy meant he lost those places.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Aug 27, 2007, 10:13 PM
damn, hamilton had bad luck. His tire burst causing him to pit.

bennyboy
Aug 28, 2007, 8:29 AM
Yeah, if his tyres/mechanic's wheel gun never failed throughout the course of the season he'd have 12 podiums out of 12 now, only seven behind the most consecutive podium finishes, set by (who else?) Michael Schumacher at 19.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Aug 28, 2007, 11:09 PM
well, he's a rookie so he may have tons of chances to beat michael schumacher.