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monkeyfkker
Oct 20, 2007, 10:38 AM
I posted these in another thread but thought I'd move them here...

Here's what we did to the Vega after the 'wall incident'... lol (that's my baby behind it)


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/drtruck/racecars.jpg


and a little burnout... look close at the front tires. She started going sideways. I kept my foot into it a bit and ended up with the car out of the groove. I had to clear the lights and line back up.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/drtruck/DSC005401.jpg

bennyboy
Oct 20, 2007, 10:47 AM
Monkey, why were you thinking about selling the Monte!? It's just too cool!

*#turbinas#*
Oct 20, 2007, 11:16 AM
Your car is so great. It looks awesome. Anyways what happened to your race at the second pic? Did you win this orange/yellow car? Nice pics, monkey!

monkeyfkker
Oct 20, 2007, 11:29 AM
I ran a 9.90 with a 6 and he broke out with a 9.87. I lost in the second round to a 67 Camaro. I ran a 9.90 with a 9 and he ran a 9.90 with a 3. With the new tires I'm running I've had to add time into my delay box and it's pushing my big end speed up over 152 though so I'm happy about that.

My wife shot down the T/A idea so I'm going to keep the Monte and run it again for at least another season. I've got the Prelude project for the winter and will be starting on a Jeep someday soon. The rail would've been too much to do right now anyway.

C.A.R.
Oct 20, 2007, 11:34 AM
Never knew you were still in motorsports Monkey, the way you spoke about it made it seem like a story from the yesteryear....lol!

That car is awesome though, and I guess the motorsport scene is much broader over there. Tell me, is it a cheap hobby to fund? (I doubt) and do you think it works to your advantage living in the States?

Chris.

monkeyfkker
Oct 20, 2007, 11:43 AM
The advantage here is the accesibility to parts and equipment. I race in Super Gas. It's a bracket race basically where you try to get as close to a 9.90 pass without running quicker than that. There are guys out there running older Camaros and Mustangs with only about 5 or 10 grand invested in them. They tend to break often though and aren't reliable. Then there are the guys with custom fabricated bodies, chrome moly tube chassis', race spec engines, Lenco and Liberty transmissions... These things run over 100 grand easy.

I'll always be racing something. I was going to jump up to Top Alcohol but my wife wants me to wait until my daughter's older before I go on the circuit. Racing is a major part of my life and something that's in my family's blood.

Timbit
Oct 21, 2007, 12:11 AM
I ran a 9.90 with a 6 and he broke out with a 9.87. I lost in the second round to a 67 Camaro. I ran a 9.90 with a 9 and he ran a 9.90 with a 3.

Can you clear up what you mean here? What is the difference between a 9 and a 3?

skyline_luva19
Oct 21, 2007, 7:05 AM
i think its something to do with how much the car is restricted to hit that time, i know they use throttle stops to slow the car a little to hit the target time, maybe monkey had a larger stop so the other guy won? im just guessing.

Timbit
Oct 21, 2007, 7:24 AM
Definitely sounds like a plausible explanation, I'll give you that!

I am very much unknowledgeable in the goings on of drag racing...

skyline_luva19
Oct 21, 2007, 8:00 AM
me too but i have learned a lot off him in the last few month. i think if its not that it could be reaction time

escapade
Oct 22, 2007, 4:01 AM
Can you clear up what you mean here? What is the difference between a 9 and a 3?

my guess is reaction time or something? wouldn't have the slightest idea tho. i also wondered this

monkeyfkker
Oct 22, 2007, 1:52 PM
Can you clear up what you mean here? What is the difference between a 9 and a 3?Sorry guys... it's just drag racing slang. We make things harder than they need to be. lol

9.90 with a 9 means I ran a 9.909

9.90 with a 3 means he ran a 9.903

He beat me by 6 thousandths of a second. I got him off the tree. My reaction time was quicker. He ran me down and passed me at about the 1/8 mile mark.

For those of you who don't know what throttle stops and delay boxes are... In bracket racing you have a set 1/4 mile elapsed time that you can not go quicker than. If you dial in at 10.00 seconds and then run a 9.999 you lose. It's called breaking out. BUT... if both cars break out then the car with the time closest to the dial in wins. Most low budget bracket racers set their dial in and then hope to god they can run it again without going too quick. Most Super Gas cars have throttle stops and delay boxes. We're high tech! lol... (note that to everyone who thinks Americans don't know about engine technology! lol)

The throttle stop controls the throttle (duh! lol). The delay box tells the throttle stops how long to wait before opening the throttle completely and how much fuel to deliver during the first stage to get the car off the line. Once you take into account the air temperature, track temperature, humidity, wind speed, air density, tire pressure, and tire temperature (more of that non technology! lol) you enter that info into your computer (software called 'Crew Chief') and then put in the specs for the car... voila, it tells you how much time to put in the delay box. Then, since no computer can calculate every little quirk of a car, you do a couple tune up runs and dial in the box so you're running 9.90 or as close as possible, and then hope you don't break out in the qualifier.

Some old timers call it cheating. We call it technology. lol

Timbit
Oct 22, 2007, 2:04 PM
Sorry guys... it's just drag racing slang. We make things harder than they need to be. lol

9.90 with a 9 means I ran a 9.909

9.90 with a 3 means he ran a 9.903

He beat me by 6 thousandths of a second. I got him off the tree. My reaction time was quicker. He ran me down and passed me at about the 1/8 mile mark.

For those of you who don't know what throttle stops and delay boxes are... In bracket racing you have a set 1/4 mile elapsed time that you can not go quicker than. If you dial in at 10.00 seconds and then run a 9.999 you lose. It's called breaking out. BUT... if both cars break out then the car with the time closest to the dial in wins. Most low budget bracket racers set their dial in and then hope to god they can run it again without going too quick. Most Super Gas cars have throttle stops and delay boxes. We're high tech! lol... (note that to everyone who thinks Americans don't know about engine technology! lol)

The throttle stop controls the throttle (duh! lol). The delay box tells the throttle stops how long to wait before opening the throttle completely and how much fuel to deliver during the first stage to get the car off the line. Once you take into account the air temperature, track temperature, humidity, wind speed, air density, tire pressure, and tire temperature (more of that non technology! lol) you enter that info into your computer (software called 'Crew Chief') and then put in the specs for the car... voila, it tells you how much time to put in the delay box. Then, since no computer can calculate every little quirk of a car, you do a couple tune up runs and dial in the box so you're running 9.90 or as close as possible, and then hope you don't break out in the qualifier.

Some old timers call it cheating. We call it technology. lol

Thanks for clearing that up, and also for the large amounts of info. I had no idea thats how bracket racing worked (or even such a system existed). I just thought all classes were restricted by regulations, and then they were all just timed runs, with the fastest winning. lol.

monkeyfkker
Oct 22, 2007, 6:14 PM
Of course there is straight head to head, 'run whatcha brung', all out drag racing where you just go as quick as you can and the fastest car wins but outside of the semi-pro and professional classes there's not much organized racing like that.

skyline_luva19
Oct 22, 2007, 7:50 PM
dammit monkey couldnt you just tell them i was right.

sohcvtec
Oct 22, 2007, 7:54 PM
Of course there is straight head to head, 'run whatcha brung', all out drag racing where you just go as quick as you can and the fastest car wins
'run watcha brung' i saw that phrase before, i was like ''WTF?''
And what is a "hats" race?

monkeyfkker
Oct 22, 2007, 8:00 PM
dammit monkey couldnt you just tell them i was right.That's too easy! lol

'run watcha brung' i saw that phrase before, i was like ''WTF?''
And what is a "hats" race?Run whatcha brung means to run all out as hard as the car can against whoever lines up next to you. No staggered lights or handicaps... Run the tree to the greens and go.... lol

Speeddemon350
Oct 22, 2007, 8:06 PM
Nice monkey, those are awsome. Seeing these pics makes me want to go back to the track and watch some good races lol. I thought the vega was white though? The burnout kinda reminds me, I was watching the news the other day and they were introducing a video recorder that recorded 1000 frames a second I think, and they showed drag racing and when they do the burnouts in slow motion, and whew, those tires look like they are under so much pressure when doing a burnout.

monkeyfkker
Oct 23, 2007, 5:49 PM
YEah they're under quite a bit of pressure. Remember that wrinkle wall slicks are riveted to the rims and only hold between 4 and 8 psi of air.

The Vega WAS white... until some dumbass ran it into the wall... lol

When we had the front end fixed Daniel (my partner) had a bunch of sky blue paint and for some reason thought it would look good on the Vega. lol

escapade
Oct 24, 2007, 2:51 AM
Nice monkey, those are awsome. Seeing these pics makes me want to go back to the track and watch some good races lol. I thought the vega was white though? The burnout kinda reminds me, I was watching the news the other day and they were introducing a video recorder that recorded 1000 frames a second I think, and they showed drag racing and when they do the burnouts in slow motion, and whew, those tires look like they are under so much pressure when doing a burnout.

yes i know the video... and what do you know... here it is http://www.break.com/index/drag_racing_filmed_at_1000fps.html

LSixer
Oct 24, 2007, 12:02 PM
REALLY nice looking car my friend.

Sorry to ask, because I am sure you have posted it hundreds of times, but, where is it you spin your wheels?
We have a couple of our clubbers that race up at Great Lakes Dragaway, Im not one of them of course :rolleyes:. In fact there are some good times happening this week including "super-sticky" Thursdays, which one of our buds is going to. I get up there with my son occasionally, just smell the burnt rubber.

monkeyfkker
Oct 24, 2007, 12:14 PM
I race at Topeka, Kansas and Great Bend, Kansas. I go to other tracks occasionally but mainly those two.

lambo or holden
Oct 24, 2007, 4:22 PM
Monkey, do you know how fast your car is if you run it flat out?

Anyway, your cars are damn near, if not, the coolest things that anyone on here owns.

monkeyfkker
Oct 24, 2007, 4:32 PM
Monkey, do you know how fast your car is if you run it flat out?

Anyway, your cars are damn near, if not, the coolest things that anyone on here owns.Thanks but there are a couple people here with some cool cars. Maybe not as expensive! lol... but cool.

The Monte Carlo will, according to the computers, break 200 with different gears. It's got the power and aerodynamics for it. The way it sits it'll hit somewhere between 170 and 175 on the landing strip out here in Pratt before it runs out of gears.

SteveFX
Oct 25, 2007, 12:37 AM
Sky blue paint makes me think of the funniest lines in the movie "48 Hours." No way would swearbots/mods/admin let such language fly...

Speeddemon350
Oct 25, 2007, 9:29 AM
Yea monkey that skyblue is pretty nice on that vega.

monkeyfkker
Oct 25, 2007, 11:18 AM
Sky blue paint makes me think of the funniest lines in the movie "48 Hours." No way would swearbots/mods/admin let such language fly...I LOVE that movie...

"Jack... tell me a story"

"**** you!"

"Oh, that's my favorite!"


lol...

"There's a new sheriff in town... and his name is Reggie Hammond. Y'all be cool... right on."

That movie's a classic.

lambo or holden
Oct 25, 2007, 2:10 PM
Thanks but there are a couple people here with some cool cars. Maybe not as expensive! lol... but cool.

The Monte Carlo will, according to the computers, break 200 with different gears. It's got the power and aerodynamics for it. The way it sits it'll hit somewhere between 170 and 175 on the landing strip out here in Pratt before it runs out of gears.
Thats a pretty respectable speed. Though I did mean (and word badly) the time for the quarter mile, flat out with no delay box or throttle stops.

monkeyfkker
Oct 26, 2007, 10:34 AM
Ah, sorry. Mid 8's...