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mclaren_mercedes_f1
Jan 12, 2008, 1:33 AM
Singapore has revealed the definitive design of its Formula 1 track. There has been much discussion over the exact routing for some months but the track is now decided and will be 3.15 miles in length and will have 24 turns, consisting of 14 left hand turns and 10 right hand turns, will be the first Formula 1 street race in Asia and it will be one of only three races on the 2008 calendar to run in an anticlockwise direction.

The race will be 61 laps and if all goes to plan it will be the first ever F1 race to be held at night. This remains dependent on safety clearance for a lighting system that will replicate daylight conditions.

The circuit will include a completely new pit straight which is being built along with the necessary buildings. The cars are likely to reach a maximum speed in excess of 200mph along Raffles Boulevard. The cars will also go through the 97-year-old Anderson Bridge, over the Singapore River.

"After months of poring over the drawing board, we are now one step closer to our dream," said Colin Syn, the deputy chairman of Singapore GP. "There is no time to celebrate - it is now full speed ahead for us to get this race on the road."

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chriz00
Jan 12, 2008, 1:51 AM
Wow, looks like a really well made track, I like how those 2 turns meet. (T8 and T15)

Is this racing at night, for the '08 season...?

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Jan 12, 2008, 1:53 AM
Yes it's the only Night Race and also the first ever night race in F1 history.

car lover !!
Jan 12, 2008, 2:51 AM
Shouldn't be skyline101 or Koenigzegg CCX be the one to post this one? Since they are Singaporeans. Good news for Singaporeans. Bad news for Malaysia since Singaporeans won't really come to Malaysia for F1. It's a pretty cool track. Can't wait to see the race, really. It's a night race. Night race ain't easy.

GT King
Jan 12, 2008, 6:33 AM
I honestly can't wait til the Singapore GP, primarily because it's going to be the first night race in F1 history. The track layout looks pretty good too, it has some long straights and tight curves, and a chicane as well. But what i'm most excited about is that narrow bridge, that should be exciting.

breakFan
Jan 12, 2008, 6:34 AM
Wow, what challenging track! And just to make it all the more entertaining there's no room for error, otherwise it's straight into the barrier (like Monaco :p). AND it's at night (even though that won't change much).

MMMhhh this is going to be one to watch!

*#turbinas#*
Jan 12, 2008, 7:22 AM
I can't wait. The track seems great. Also it will be the first night F1 race. Wow.

I'm looking forwad to it.

Timbit
Jan 12, 2008, 8:19 AM
It'll happen before you know it.

My fear is that due to the narrowness of the bridge, the precautions put in place will be far greater. If a car stops on that bridge, I wouldn't be surprised if they red-flagged the race and restarted some minuted later.

Nonetheless, with 24 corners, and 5km long lap, it should give a pretty long lap time. I'm thinking somewhere in the vicinity of 1:35 to 1:40.

bennyboy
Jan 12, 2008, 10:07 AM
Looks like a bloody brilliant track. Got fast bit, slow bits and overtaking spots, which are all the basic ingredients for making a great race track. And going over the bridge, over water, in an F1 car, will be absolutely incredible. The guys getting to drive this are seriously lucky. I can't wait for this year, and it's going to brilliant!

Beaver
Jan 12, 2008, 10:22 AM
This race will be amazing, its a new track (which looks like it will be a very good one) and its the first F1 race ever to be held at night. I cannot wait to watch it!

hyphon12
Jan 12, 2008, 11:12 AM
When it comes the Singapore F1 is gonna be epic, the skills of each driver is gonna be tested thanks to darkness, the F1 cars will look awesome racing at night.

C.A.R.
Jan 12, 2008, 11:16 AM
It'll happen before you know it.

My fear is that due to the narrowness of the bridge, the precautions put in place will be far greater. If a car stops on that bridge, I wouldn't be surprised if they red-flagged the race and restarted some minuted later.

Nonetheless, with 24 corners, and 5km long lap, it should give a pretty long lap time. I'm thinking somewhere in the vicinity of 1:35 to 1:40.

I disagree, the bridge won't be tiny. If you look at the tunnel at Monaco then it'd be the same if not wider, and there's nowhere within the tunnel that a car can be moved aside.

I think it will work. I think it's mad, but I think F1 needs to attract even more fans, so it will be successful.

Chris.

AWDfreak
Jan 12, 2008, 7:21 PM
I am excited that it is a night race but...

I wish that they'd install lights on the cars instead of lighting up the track significantly. It's OK to do some lighting on the track, but I want the F1 cars to illuminate their own path.....

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Jan 12, 2008, 7:23 PM
^^ It'll be too dangerous.

AWDfreak
Jan 12, 2008, 7:47 PM
^that's the point. F1 needs to be a bit more dangerous for some excitement.....

RAizzle
Jan 12, 2008, 8:11 PM
I feel you on that AWDfreak. I wanna see flames and brakes light up the night like in LeMans.

CarRocker
Jan 12, 2008, 9:09 PM
The idea of the night race is great, but I'm afraid they'll light up the track so much, that it'll be easier to drive then when the sun is shining.

But the track looks like it's great fun, and I hope it'll make for a great race.

Timbit
Jan 12, 2008, 11:45 PM
I disagree, the bridge won't be tiny. If you look at the tunnel at Monaco then it'd be the same if not wider, and there's nowhere within the tunnel that a car can be moved aside.

I don't think the decision to red flag the race will be taken lightly. I mean, they go alright around Monaco. I guess the fact that it's on a bridge makes it a tad more risky.

Keep in mind though that the bridge section is 8 metres wide, which makes it half the width of the Start/Finish straight at Sepang. If one car stops, it should be right, but if there's 2 cars stranded there in an accident, then I think they would consider red flagging it until a safe and clear path has been created.

TBR 427
Jan 13, 2008, 12:17 AM
I don't think the decision to red flag the race will be taken lightly. I mean, they go alright around Monaco. I guess the fact that it's on a bridge makes it a tad more risky.

Keep in mind though that the bridge section is 8 metres wide, which makes it half the width of the Start/Finish straight at Sepang. If one car stops, it should be right, but if there's 2 cars stranded there in an accident, then I think they would consider red flagging it until a safe and clear path has been created.


Lets just pray that Webber's RB doesn't expire on the bridge - not only would he hane no safety well to jump over as usual when something breaks/malfunctions, but he might be tepmted to push his car off it.

At least he won't have to worry as much as he would if his car needed headlights. They'd go after 1 lap!:eek:

Talking of lights, is anyone up for some sabotage? I hear there's a power station near the track.:D

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Jan 13, 2008, 12:40 AM
heh, Webber always the bad luck of motorsports. Well, we'll just have to wait till Red Bull releases it's car this year.

Timbit
Jan 13, 2008, 3:26 AM
Lets just pray that Webber's RB doesn't expire on the bridge - not only would he hane no safety well to jump over as usual when something breaks/malfunctions, but he might be tepmted to push his car off it.

At least he won't have to worry as much as he would if his car needed headlights. They'd go after 1 lap!:eek:

Talking of lights, is anyone up for some sabotage? I hear there's a power station near the track.:D

lol, poor poor Webber. The lowest point in my F1 following career was when his exhaust went bust at Monaco 06. Still, he has many followers, the RB4 just needs to be quick and reliable.

As for the lighting, they're using I think it was 23 generators, and each has a back up, I think. I'll have to get back on that one.

jamesy
Jan 13, 2008, 6:10 AM
^that's the point. F1 needs to be a bit more dangerous for some excitement.....
I agree. Thats the main reason why i'm not as interested in F1 as I was. I loved it when the cars and drivers were right on the limit. Its all too safe now with the sophisticated traction control systems and aerodynamics. Why can't it be like the old days where F1 cars were spinning out and crashing into barriers? :(

breakFan
Jan 13, 2008, 6:47 AM
I agree. Thats the main reason why i'm not as interested in F1 as I was. I loved it when the cars and drivers were right on the limit. Its all too safe now with the sophisticated traction control systems and aerodynamics. Why can't it be like the old days where F1 cars were spinning out and crashing into barriers? :(

Traction control no longer exists in Formula One :).

I agree it could do with some more excitement, but a night race would simply be impossible. For one, the cars would need lights, big ones, and that would seriously affect aerodynamics.
It would also pretty stupid because so damn dangerous, imagine dealing with an accident in night conditions...

sonicadg
Jan 13, 2008, 6:23 PM
lol, poor poor Webber. The lowest point in my F1 following career was when his exhaust went bust at Monaco 06. Still, he has many followers, the RB4 just needs to be quick and reliable.

As for the lighting, they're using I think it was 23 generators, and each has a back up, I think. I'll have to get back on that one.

what about Fuji. A near win. Then hit my Vettel, thats gotta hurt.



As for Sepang. I've seen the track 3D, and it seems pretty long. It'll be interesting, since its seems quite different to Monaco.

If any accident does occur it will be mad. Remeber Albers spun at Monaco 05 i think. at least 6 cars were just stopped behind him.

Timbit
Jan 13, 2008, 8:00 PM
what about Fuji. A near win. Then hit my Vettel, thats gotta hurt.

Well, I kind of...missed half the race because I didn't realise that they were going to show the race live instead of delayed at 10:00pm at night. When I chimed in they were already behind the safety car and only a few laps later Webber and Vettel went out, so it was more surprising than shocking a that stage.

Besides, he wasn't in a Williams :p

gm man
Jan 14, 2008, 12:09 AM
nice i want to see this race
like chriz said the 8 and 15 turns are going to be pretty bad ass :)

KoenigzeggCCX
Jan 14, 2008, 6:01 AM
(wow thats old news too me) .. sori well im looking 4ward the race since im in singapore

Phoenix_22
Jan 14, 2008, 11:41 AM
Looks like a good track, but then again, find me a street circuit that isn't good looking.

I'm predicting chaos in turns 1-3 for the start and some crazy passes down at turn 10 and 11. We shall see though, I can't wait for it and Valencia.

SteveFX
Jan 15, 2008, 12:54 AM
Unless you have traditional street cred like Monaco or Long Beach; street races SUCK!

USGP @ Phoenix AZ USA had cars bottoming out 20+ times/lap. An IMSA GTP race @ New Orleans (NOLA) had drivers dodging/grounding on 80+ manholes. A TransAm race @ Des Moines IA USA had drivers crossing a river twice on humpback bridges.

Drivers hate street courses because there is no margin of error. You are either slow, correct, or DNF (possibly dead!).

TV viewers hate them because they never see anything except car in/car out of a corner.

Stupid (ignorant) viewers get to see <200 yds/m per lap from a ripoff grandstand seat.

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Maybe Singapore will repave the streets/course and keep trucks off of them early enough for a good surface. There are SEVERAL corners <80kph.

Street courses SUCK!

PS. Sue me.

Phoenix_22
Jan 15, 2008, 2:55 PM
I'm talking about how they look, not the viewing experience. Believe me, St. Petersburg is a pain in the ass when it comes to watching, especially if you are stupid enough to try and be a photographer there. There are just way too many fences in the way. Of course, the design of St. Petersburg is pretty good, and the races themselves bring a lot more action than a road course (possibly the FIA's intentions right there).

Monaco is a beautiful place, with a neat design for a track and a big difficulty margin, same goes for Long Beach. At the very least, a properly designed street circuit is good, the bad ones are not.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Jan 15, 2008, 7:16 PM
I agree. Thats the main reason why i'm not as interested in F1 as I was. I loved it when the cars and drivers were right on the limit. Its all too safe now with the sophisticated traction control systems and aerodynamics. Why can't it be like the old days where F1 cars were spinning out and crashing into barriers? :(
Because that's when people DIE. There's hardcore dangerous and you wont die and then there is hardcore dangerous and life was in jeopardy.