View Full Version : Can a Evo 8 MR FQ400 be modified?
Metallica Forever
Mar 16, 2005, 6:49 AM
Can a Mitsubishi Evo 8 FQ400 be further modified to increase top speed and acceleration?
Brain_6
Mar 16, 2005, 7:39 AM
Obviously man! Just increase the turbo boost ,NOS,tyre composition, or aerodynamic modifiying.
Mind you there is only so much an engine can do for top end speed- the rest is up to aerodynamics to cut through the air and with a form like the evo it would have to be altered quite a lot.
Acceleration improving is endless!
jimkk29
Mar 16, 2005, 8:56 AM
Yeah, and then you break the engine.
Keep in mind that the EVO still has a 2 lt engine. When you push way more than 400 HP from a 2 lt engine you will need a major engine rebuild (if you always drive hard) every few thousand miles, I am positive.
Metallica Forever
Mar 16, 2005, 11:17 AM
I see.But if u rebuild the engine then prob will be soft rite?I wonder how many HP can it stand when fully stock?What is the maximum HP this car can withstand?
Brain_6
Mar 16, 2005, 1:07 PM
yeah good point bout the engine.
But i heard some where that some limited edition Evo had a 2litre engine with parts specially hardened and formed to cope with 450bhp.
The metal engine is a special metal matrix composite material (MMC) which has the qualities of the independent metals and also depending on whats required( thermal shock resistance, duarbility, toughness) additives of other metals can also be incorporated.
I understand the metal structures and strengths very welll as i have studied materials for years, the only problem is that the engine may not even have been used so all this may be bullshit as the source was supposedly a poor reference, it's had a lot of criticism.
flabi20
Mar 16, 2005, 4:00 PM
Well the evo can be modified more. I've seen stock MR evos hooked up to about 780 hp. It takes alot of time and the engine has to be renforced to the specications of a tank. lol. But you can put about 300 more ponies in that car. And for aero you have to work on making the chasis lower to the ground. That car has alot of unlocked hp it just takes the money
TwinTurboBliss
Mar 16, 2005, 9:08 PM
Obviously man! Just increase the turbo boost ,NOS,tyre composition, or aerodynamic modifiying.
Mind you there is only so much an engine can do for top end speed- the rest is up to aerodynamics to cut through the air and with a form like the evo it would have to be altered quite a lot.
Acceleration improving is endless!
Please, never modify a turbocharged car.
Fuman
Mar 17, 2005, 3:00 AM
blueprint the engine and reinforce.... but while ur blueprinting... increase the displacement... (if u cant, err blueprint another 1? lol) less lag on the low end
TwinTurboBliss
Mar 18, 2005, 12:24 AM
blueprint the engine and reinforce.... but while ur blueprinting... increase the displacement... (if u cant, err blueprint another 1? lol) less lag on the low end
You also lower the revs which is bad on a turbocharged car. Look at the displacment of most turbo charged V8's. They are either large displacement/low boost or small displacment/high boost.
12 inch pianist
Mar 18, 2005, 1:50 AM
If you stroke it that is, bigger bore/lighter pistons will give you with out losing revs.
Metallica Forever
Mar 18, 2005, 7:32 AM
Well the evo can be modified more. I've seen stock MR evos hooked up to about 780 hp. It takes alot of time and the engine has to be renforced to the specications of a tank. lol. But you can put about 300 more ponies in that car. And for aero you have to work on making the chasis lower to the ground. That car has alot of unlocked hp it just takes the money
WOW.Let me see.If im right 780hp is enough to have a max speed of about 230mph.Are u sure????Well if modifying a turbocharge car may lower the revs...is it an inevitable cons or can it be rectify???
Korfak
Mar 18, 2005, 3:36 PM
WOW.Let me see.If im right 780hp is enough to have a max speed of about 230mph.Are u sure????Well if modifying a turbocharge car may lower the revs...is it an inevitable cons or can it be rectify???
The max speed is not controlled by the max HP
you can see a car with 1000HP with 150MPH max speed....or see a car with 700HP with 200MPH max speed.....that's all about the gearbox....you can change the gear ratios.....
the advantage to have less MAX SPEED is that your car can accelerate faster....but if you change to a MORE max speed....like 230MPH.....you'r car its going to be slower than before......
and who say that the supercharge lower the REVS???...it's the first time i hear that.....somebody knows if that's true???.......because I dont think so :confused:
jimkk29
Mar 22, 2005, 7:32 AM
Aerodynamics plays the most important role in top speed, given that your gear ratios can take you there.
Metallica Forever
Mar 27, 2005, 6:41 AM
Thanks guys.But after some research with reallllyyyyy cool experts.Japanese cars are the best to modify.However its advisable not to modify a car as getting speed,acceleration and style is the only pros.Perfect for drag but useless to other type of racing cos by increasing speed it'll be freakin hard to handle your car.Espeacially sharp corners or 180 degrees turn.DAMMMMMMM.No wonder fully modifies car are not even half the price of exotic and excellent sports car.They cant be as good as them no matter how u modify them.I think its quite safe to say that the Ferrari Enzo is the god of cars.
porsche911
Mar 27, 2005, 3:19 PM
I thought that the Mclaren F1 was the god of cars, until 9ff took a 996 Turbo GT2 and modded it to over 800 horsepower and achieved a top speed of 242.5 mph. That makes that the fastest street legal car in the world, according to number 131 of 911&Porsche World. On a second note, Metallica is by far the greatest band in the world.:D
Korfak
Mar 27, 2005, 6:15 PM
Metallica is by far the greatest band in the world.:D
LOL that's completely out of the topic..but im agree with you...tht's the best band in the world :cool:
Kirstyn
Mar 27, 2005, 6:24 PM
btw, wrong section, this should be under technical
porsche911
Mar 27, 2005, 6:26 PM
LOL that's completely out of the topic..but im agree with you...tht's the best band in the world :cool: -Korfax
I couldn't help but notice his name:p But to try to keep it on topic, I know the evo uses the 4g63 engine, and I know that they have been tweaked to 1000 horsepower.
Kirstyn
Mar 27, 2005, 7:14 PM
The 400hp FQ400 does 60 in 3,5....I could only imagine a 1000hp 4g63....
porsche911
Mar 27, 2005, 7:30 PM
I'm not sure on the 0-60mph time, but the I do know that John Shepard is running 8's @164mph, in his talon.
EvO106
Apr 01, 2005, 2:18 PM
you wont need to rebuild the engine my friend has a evo VIII with 3 in turbo back exhaust,3 in down pipe,boost controller,turbo timer, intercoller pipes and BOV and now he just ordered turbo upgrade, cam, cam gears engine management unit and nitrous he'll be around 450-500 HP without rebuilding the engine.
Metallica Forever
Apr 04, 2005, 7:50 AM
Although its out of topic yes.METALLICA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!They are the best ever.Give me 5 Porsche911 and Korfak.BTW....the 996 Turbo GT2.Is it a drag car??
??COTOZEBS??
Apr 04, 2005, 7:37 PM
HA, every car can be modified just have money and the imagination!!!!!espacialy for a lancer, man good luck!Hala
12 inch pianist
Apr 05, 2005, 4:12 AM
Although its out of topic yes.METALLICA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well they murdered Crash Course in Brain Surgery and keep on going to rehab, its metal for people without the time to make dissions
porsche911
Apr 06, 2005, 6:55 PM
Well they murdered Crash Course in Brain Surgery and keep on going to rehab, its metal for people without the time to make dissions-12inch
That's because the song sucked anyway.:p
porsche911
Apr 06, 2005, 6:58 PM
Although its out of topic yes.METALLICA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!They are the best ever.Give me 5 Porsche911 and Korfak.BTW....the 996 Turbo GT2.Is it a drag car??-MetallicA Forever
Drag car? It's a 477 horsepower beast. It's set up for daily driving as well as track. Little pricey, but totally worth it if you have the money. I can't wait for the 997 GT2, I'm sure that'll be insane.
12 inch pianist
Apr 07, 2005, 5:05 AM
Well they murdered Crash Course in Brain Surgery and keep on going to rehab, its metal for people without the time to make dissions-12inch
That's because the song sucked anyway.:p
They keep on going to rehab because its a good excuse for them sucking
jimkk29
Apr 07, 2005, 10:01 AM
Can we not turn this into a metallica thread?
ieson
Apr 21, 2005, 12:25 AM
Vivid Racing provides many 'safe' mods for the new evos. Please see http://vrsm.vividracing.com/index.php?src=gendocs&link=ProjectEVO&category=Project%20Cars&PHPSESSID=dadcb0696c27a27c730c4810211d18 40 for more details. The evo engine like the Eclipse and Galant VR4 engines before it takes very well to high hp with minimal internal work needed.
ieson
Apr 21, 2005, 12:29 AM
For an additional $3000 your evo can be 500 hp monster, check out http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=41_184_189_248&products_id=6718
Driftster
Apr 25, 2005, 7:35 PM
Evo...Really? that's great, I can't wait till your friends car starts puffing white smoke from fried piston rings....But I guess I won't be around for that...
#1 thing to do to an evo (other than exhaust and blah blah blah)
Stroke it....
Nothing better than taking a 2.0L 4g63 and making it a 2.35L 4g63....THEN it'll be a reliable beast....a 500HP 2.0L evo = not reliable and not practical in terms of boost...
A 2.35L 500HP Evo...It'll spool quick..it'll sound nice..it'll run hard..and it'll love it
Thermodynamics
Apr 25, 2005, 7:43 PM
The max speed is not controlled by the max HP
you can see a car with 1000HP with 150MPH max speed....or see a car with 700HP with 200MPH max speed.....that's all about the gearbox....you can change the gear ratios.....
the advantage to have less MAX SPEED is that your car can accelerate faster....but if you change to a MORE max speed....like 230MPH.....you'r car its going to be slower than before......
and who say that the supercharge lower the REVS???...it's the first time i hear that.....somebody knows if that's true???.......because I dont think so :confused:
Not quite lets say your car changes gears every 500 revs not much acceleration,top speed has to do with torque,hp,rpm at which max hp is developed,weight and aerodynamics.Look at the Mclaren F1, 620hp and does 241 mph now compare the worlds second fastest domestic bred car (R 34) which has 1300 hp that does 215 mph.
Thermodynamics
Apr 25, 2005, 7:50 PM
Evo...Really? that's great, I can't wait till your friends car starts puffing white smoke from fried piston rings....But I guess I won't be around for that...
#1 thing to do to an evo (other than exhaust and blah blah blah)
Stroke it....
Nothing better than taking a 2.0L 4g63 and making it a 2.35L 4g63....THEN it'll be a reliable beast....a 500HP 2.0L evo = not reliable and not practical in terms of boost...
A 2.35L 500HP Evo...It'll spool quick..it'll sound nice..it'll run hard..and it'll love it
In my opinion the fried rings part,this engine was constructed to with stand 400 hp which means mitsubishi is smart enough to equip it with stronger parts its kind of common sense......and last but not least read your private messages.
Driftster
Apr 25, 2005, 7:59 PM
No...Thermo I was reffering to the guy who had a friend with a 500+HP Evo.....without any sort of mentioned engine build..
As for Top speed...
top speed is not determined by gear..
If it was determined by gear a Viper SRT-10 could do 350mph...Because that's what it's 6th gear is geared for....
Top speed is determined by Coefficient of drag, frontal surface area, HP, and friction of the tires on the road.....
Kirstyn
Apr 25, 2005, 8:02 PM
shouldn't this be technical?
cuz this is the ext/int mods section - the show not go section.
Metallica Forever
May 01, 2005, 12:37 PM
350 mph???SURE OR NOT..........
Driftster
May 02, 2005, 12:47 PM
Metallica...Read the whole post......
iplaygod
May 04, 2005, 2:30 PM
Yeah, and then you break the engine.
Keep in mind that the EVO still has a 2 lt engine. When you push way more than 400 HP from a 2 lt engine you will need a major engine rebuild (if you always drive hard) every few thousand miles, I am positive.
a bore and stroke kit could help this, by increasing the displacement
Driftster
May 04, 2005, 2:44 PM
That engine doesn't have enough cylinder wall to bore it anymore man. You bore than thing over any more than .03 which is probably too much there and you'll crack it in a week....
Bravodor
May 05, 2005, 12:04 PM
There is a limit to how much horse power you can squeeze out of a smaller displacment engine.
if you bore out the cylinders you get a slight increase in displacment, but you will weaken them structually in the process. Increasing the turbo pressure would work for slight increase in power, but you need a to install a new relief valve (the stock one cant handle much) and agian theres a limit on how much of a boost the turbo can provide.
If you really want enourmous horse power in a lancer the mods are either going to be dangerous, or valid, but way too expensive.
You could replace the engine with something that has more displacment if you get deseperate, but I would think you could put a few safe mods on it and make atleast another 100 HP, and you shouldent need much more than 400 for anything anyways.
Driftster
May 07, 2005, 8:32 PM
There is a limit to how much horse power you can squeeze out of a smaller displacment engine.
if you bore out the cylinders you get a slight increase in displacment, but you will weaken them structually in the process. Increasing the turbo pressure would work for slight increase in power, but you need a to install a new relief valve (the stock one cant handle much) and agian theres a limit on how much of a boost the turbo can provide.
If you really want enourmous horse power in a lancer the mods are either going to be dangerous, or valid, but way too expensive.
You could replace the engine with something that has more displacment if you get deseperate, but I would think you could put a few safe mods on it and make atleast another 100 HP, and you shouldent need much more than 400 for anything anyways.
you're nuts... Give me a 600HP Evolution anyday. and "way too expensive" once again not true. Changing the displacement in a 4g63 from 2.0Liters to 2.3Liters gives such a rediculous boost in performance it's not even funny. That small amount of displacement increase is responsible for spooling Much larger turbo's in a fraction of the time even a TUNED 2.0L would have done it in. Heck this evo's an example
http://www.srvidz.com/evo.html
dragin
Aug 04, 2005, 5:27 AM
theres some random info going on here the gen rpm for a stroked 4g63t is about 7000-7500 witch is a hell diff as i rev my 2l 4g63 to 9500 and have been doing so for 3 years now. me mates got a TME thats been stroked and bored (20tho) the motor is good for 850hp atw but our gay gas does not have much octane in it so 500hp atw is all we can get,where he has like 130hp more than me but my car is lighter and wins over all. go the 2L :) heres a link to what new zealand evo's are doing. the blue one (named Docile) has over 1000hp and just broke the world record for a 2L 4wd woot woot. http://www.evopwr.com/
Driftster
Aug 04, 2005, 5:39 AM
Dude...
500 to 850HP is quite a difference from maybe....10 octane points...
Phantom Menace
Aug 08, 2005, 12:49 PM
my cousin's got an evo modified by some japanese company called JUN
they produced 702hp to the crank and a max of 1.8 bar of boost from a greddy turbo.
his car also had a 2.2 stroker which was the best at that time but now they came out with 2.4 stroker
about top speed well i can say that a porsche turbo 550hp versus this pocket rocket has a nice outcome....the evo is infront all the way until the turbo hits the 110mph line...then it starts to pull. thats what i have witnessed.
Kimchi604
Aug 13, 2005, 12:51 AM
"some japanese company called JUN"... lol that made me laugh
i dont think you want to further mod a FQ400... pumping out 400hp with 2 litres is quite an accomplisment already..
if this is a daily driver.. street car.. then 400hp is plenty!
if its a track car then well the skies the limit
civic R
Aug 16, 2005, 5:59 PM
i think forge motor sport do parts for evo www.forgemotorsport.com
You shoul look for Mitsubishi EVO 6 RS 450.
Metallica Forever
Dec 07, 2005, 12:32 AM
Awe...someone revived my 1st ever thread!!!!
S-Tune_S1
Dec 09, 2005, 8:23 AM
...well anything is modifiable these days..its all to do with the corect engine mods and correct tuning and i the FQ400..a Simple bigger Turbocharger and a stroker kit 2.2L would make it a very fast car :)
ManakitRacer
Jul 14, 2006, 11:45 AM
Does anyone know the fastest evo in the world? wonder what it can achieve/
car lover !!
Jul 14, 2006, 11:50 AM
Its a old thread pal...
I got one thread about the fastest evo.
Let me check.
ManakitRacer
Jul 14, 2006, 11:53 AM
allright, it should be impressive.
Skyline07
Jul 14, 2006, 7:01 PM
Haha, this is the second time this post has been revived.
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