How much do you think you can start rallying in Group N (at the cheapest) and be competetive. In the 4wd class , 2.0 litre engine, i think thats Group N1. I mean from scratch no car, spares, anything.
And how much is the cost of competing likely to for a season (not including accomodation or getting there (or food)).

I have no idea how the costs in Scotland are (and how many events has your championship...), but if it helps you, there is no class 4WD up to 2000ccm, 4WD are just over 2000ccm. Before somebody will ask how does it come that Impreza, Evo are not over 2000ccm: turbocharged engine's displacement is multiplied with coefficient 1.7 or 1.5 for turbo diesel engines. And group N over 2000ccm is N4 (and is sure not the cheapest). N1 (could be the cheapest) is N up to 1400ccm.
To make it complete:

Groups: A, N
classes
over 2000ccm - N4 (PV) - A8 (WRC)
up to 2000ccm - N3 - - - A7 (2.0 kit cars)
up to 1600ccm - N2 - - - A6 (S1600)
up to 1400ccm - N1 - - - A5

Another thing is, that even assuming that you can drive good (what you should, when thinking about entering dangerous racing, what rally is and you should seriously thing also about this) don't expect to be highly competitive in any car. Try to get through the whole event and learn, get experiences.

And, starting with N4 is not really a great idea, I would start with something less strong. To manage that car in a rally is harder that in fast driving in stock car. Many countries have a rule, that you must successfully compete some (lets say five) events in some smaller class (not N4, A8) before entering in N4 or A8.

Things about such rules, tests and licenses (that you and the car need) will tell you your national association (for example also things like health insurance valid for motorsport can be obligatory as well as medical check and of course drivers license). No idea what it is in Scotland, but on FIA webpage (international federation) is a list of national association members.

As I said, I don't know Scotland's prices, but generally, expect it to be more expensive as it will look like. You don't need just the car (witch I assume you will rent) but also some tires, fuel (for the race car and for your "training" car you will write your pacenotes in), service background and mechanics, transport of that, starting fee... and that are just things you know before, so if you crash it will be more (since most competition cars I know are not insured). And, already thought about co-driver (he will need drivers license and rally license too).

Wherever you are, buy mudgrips.

what are mudgrips? is that some atlanta term. where is atlanta by the way?

Sorry, trev. Scooby's post was very imformative. I only made a joke.

A mudgrip is an old term meaning a mud & snow or all-terrain tire, usually on the rear of a pickup in agricultural service.

Atlanta Georgia USA hosted the (bombed) 1996 Olympics. The bomber plead guilty today.

trev, allow me explain something to you, for the last 2 years I have considered entering rallying, but havent due to cost issues. I now have my own car that I am seriously considering modding out to be a rally car now (already played around in muddy car parks with it).

Im not being nosey into your family, but are you rich? big estate? large bank account?
this is why I am not yet Rallying, and please excuse me when I laugh at the thought of entering in group N, you need experience first, get something a little smaller, a 206 or Mk1 Escort, 2 totally different cars, but both excellent for learning the skills of rallying in. Scooby's post looks interesting, and I will read it when im not so tired, but unless you are loaded, you gotta work your way up like I am at the moment!

You need to learn to walk before you can run. Even Markko Martin was rallying a Lada before he got a WRC seat. Learn the evils of FWD in a cheap car in a few small rallies. You know how to get around the transit stages? Try a TSD rally and see how ill-equipped you might be. Do you have a favorite pacenote style yet? Numerical like Mcrae, or descriptive like Richard Burns? See what Im saying?


I hope I dont sound like an ass, but rallying involves more than hopes and loads of cash.

descriptive like richard burns, by the way i know not to start at group n but i was wondering how much it was cost (we arent loaded by the way) so that i could advance into it. You are more likely to be spotted in n than anywhere else