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igaboj
Dec 07, 2003, 1:46 PM
Which of these modern asian stock cars do you think is the best?

Nissan Skyline R34, Toyota Supra, Mazda RX-7 (any STOCK version), Acura NSX, Nissan 300ZX, Nissan 350Z, Mitsubishi 3000GT, Honda S2000, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VIII, Subaru WRX STi, Lexus IS300

please also include reasons when voting....

dark_hunter
Dec 07, 2003, 2:10 PM
My favorite is the Nissan 350z but of course the best is the R34 :!:

BluCamSS
Dec 07, 2003, 3:18 PM
The Supra Turbo, bullet proof engine, and it looks hot.
The R34 is a "me too" car. It looks like a boxy sedan with a ugly wing.

jimkk29
Dec 07, 2003, 5:27 PM
Acura/Honda NSX-R.

Raith83
Dec 07, 2003, 6:33 PM
The Supra Turbo, bullet proof engine, and it looks hot.
The R34 is a "me too" car. It looks like a boxy sedan with a ugly wing.

I don't see how you have the audacity to call other people stupid when you say thigns like this.

Stock, hmmmm, I'd have to say the NSX. I really can't think of a better made car from this list and it's performance is above the others. I enjoy it's exotic look and it's engineering is top notch.

Max Powers
Dec 07, 2003, 7:03 PM
Supra the stock motor has held like 1,000 hp and its does look quite sexy it also has back seats and handles well. Easy to mod and get over 450hp with a few grand.

NSX is nice looking but has no balls. Ive beaten 2 of them im not impressed with there straight line performance.

G35 Coupe is also up in my list but you dont have it listed.

BluCamSS
Dec 07, 2003, 7:07 PM
The Supra Turbo, bullet proof engine, and it looks hot.
The R34 is a "me too" car. It looks like a boxy sedan with a ugly wing.

I don't see how you have the audacity to call other people stupid when you say thigns like this.

Stock, hmmmm, I'd have to say the NSX. I really can't think of a better made car from this list and it's performance is above the others. I enjoy it's exotic look and it's engineering is top notch.

Thats my opinion, you don't like it don't read it. And it makes sence, the Supra has a great engine, and the R34 looks to boxy, and I think the wing is tacky.

Zenon
Dec 07, 2003, 7:31 PM
NSX, but its way overpriced I think.

igaboj
Dec 07, 2003, 9:05 PM
G35 Coupe is also up in my list but you dont have it listed.

G35 is the same thing as the Nissan 350Z, so if you want to vote for the G35, just vote for the 350Z

igaboj
Dec 07, 2003, 9:14 PM
NSX is nice looking but has no balls. Ive beaten 2 of them im not impressed with there straight line performance.

What'd you beat it with?

Raith83
Dec 07, 2003, 10:07 PM
G35 is the same thing as the Nissan 350Z, so if you want to vote for the G35, just vote for the 350Z

The 350Z and G35 are very SIMILIAR, yes. But they are different enough to make a difference. The infiniti styling is much smoother and elegant. Same goes for the supension, which is much smoother, but still well tuned. The engine is not puting out the same as the 350Z, the interior is more refined, and there is not vision obscuring bar across the back like in the Z. If I'm not mistaken, it's not even that much more money wise, making it an exceptional car.

Attaus
Dec 07, 2003, 10:08 PM
Thats what I would like to know.. you dont just happen to stumble upon a NSX that wants to race you, and besides.. the NSX is the most technologically advanced car ever.

Max Powers
Dec 07, 2003, 10:09 PM
G35 Coupe looks better than the 350Z atleast I think so.

I have a 96 Camaro Z28 with a few mods. I know the newer NSX are faster though. They are overpriced id much rather have a Viper or Z06.

BluCamSS
Dec 07, 2003, 10:12 PM
the NSX is the most technologically advanced car ever.

LOL, are you kidding me? EVER? Not by a long shot.
It is a good car yes, but your statement is invalid.

BluCamSS
Dec 07, 2003, 10:17 PM
G35 is the same thing as the Nissan 350Z, so if you want to vote for the G35, just vote for the 350Z

The 350Z and G35 are very SIMILIAR, yes. But they are different enough to make a difference. The infiniti styling is much smoother and elegant. Same goes for the supension, which is much smoother, but still well tuned. The engine is not puting out the same as the 350Z, the interior is more refined, and there is not vision obscuring bar across the back like in the Z. If I'm not mistaken, it's not even that much more money wise, making it an exceptional car.

Only difference in suspension is shock absorber tuning.
I personally prefer the G35 Coupe to the Z, by a long shot....it looks much better IMO.

Raith83
Dec 07, 2003, 10:19 PM
Thats my opinion, you don't like it don't read it. And it makes sence, the Supra has a great engine, and the R34 looks to boxy, and I think the wing is tacky.

Wow, again I'm simply amazed at you thought process. How can I like or dislike it until I DO read it? Wow, I'm stunned again.
Far as I know, the Skyline GT-R Spec-V II makes more power than the Supra RZ. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The NSX is priced quite fairly for the car you are getting. Mid-mounted V-6 of doom, six-speed manual transmission, divine handling, and an imacculate interior. There really is no other Japanese car to compare it to. Now it might not have the 'potential' as these other cars, but it is the best stock. Solid, solid solid engineering, thats what you pay for and that's what you get. Does that make sense?

BluCamSS
Dec 07, 2003, 10:24 PM
Thats my opinion, you don't like it don't read it. And it makes sence, the Supra has a great engine, and the R34 looks to boxy, and I think the wing is tacky.

Wow, again I'm simply amazed at you thought process. How can I like or dislike it until I DO read it? Wow, I'm stunned again.
Far as I know, the Skyline GT-R Spec-V II makes more power than the Supra RZ. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The NSX is priced quite fairly for the car you are getting. Mid-mounted V-6 of doom, six-speed manual transmission, divine handling, and an imacculate interior. There really is no other Japanese car to compare it to. Now it might not have the 'potential' as these other cars, but it is the best stock. Solid, solid solid engineering, thats what you pay for and that's what you get. Does that make sense?

V6 of doom? :roll:

Max Powers
Dec 07, 2003, 10:44 PM
The NSX does have potential, there is a guy in tampa that has one with nitrous, full exhast etc......that runs quite well from what ive heard.

I like them but my favorite will always be the Supra TT :)

Thlam
Dec 07, 2003, 11:23 PM
The NSX is potential. It was the first car with Vtec, and its even got a mid mounted 6 cycl engine!. The NSX can beat a lot of cars that have more power then it like the F355

BluCamSS
Dec 07, 2003, 11:47 PM
The NSX is potential. It was the first car with Vtec, and its even got a mid mounted 6 cycl engine!. The NSX can beat a lot of cars that have more power then it like the F355

The F355 is quicker, has way more top speed and is quicker on a track then a NSX.
I've read that many times. But I know who will disagree with me. :roll:

Top Gear, Evo and Autocar rated the F355 higher then the NSX when they came out.

igaboj
Dec 07, 2003, 11:50 PM
In California, there are far more NSX's than vipers; a guy 3 blocks away from me owns one; some guy that went to my old high school got driven to school in one every day by his dad...... (i can see you thinking how weird california is)

The NSX is probably the closest you can get to a formula 1 racer for under 100k

BluCamSS
Dec 07, 2003, 11:56 PM
In California, there are far more NSX's than vipers; a guy 3 blocks away from me owns one; some guy that went to my old high school got driven to school in one every day by his dad...... (i can see you thinking how weird california is)

The NSX is probably the closest you can get to a formula 1 racer for under 100k

I can think of way better ways to spend that 100K lol.

Max Powers
Dec 08, 2003, 1:35 AM
Thats what I would like to know.. you dont just happen to stumble upon a NSX that wants to race you, and besides.. the NSX is the most technologically advanced car ever.

Now that I think of it ive had 3 races with them, one had nitrous and beat me but I wasnt really that impressed maybe if it was a longer race.
Like my friend said im like a NSX magnet :)

jimkk29
Dec 08, 2003, 10:52 AM
The F355 is quicker, has way more top speed and is quicker on a track then a NSX.
Man I wanna know who told you this joke? You really amaze me.

BluCamSS
Dec 08, 2003, 11:45 AM
The F355 is quicker, has way more top speed and is quicker on a track then a NSX.
Man I wanna know who told you this joke? You really amaze me.

If you read my other post I said who, Top Gear, Evo and Autocar ALL rated it higher back in the day. The F355 was voted as Top Gears BEST handling car back then. Look it up and you will see for yourself. The NSX only ran like a 13.5 1/4 mile and had a 19 ft longer braking distance, the facts don't lie. Also the top speed of the F355 was like 12 mph higher.

Raith83
Dec 08, 2003, 1:26 PM
I'll explain "V-6 of doom" #1 VTEC!!! #2 tell me another car that gets 290 hp out of under 200cc of displacement without forced induction and regular 91' or whatever octane!! That is a demonic V-6!

The stupid Ferrari F355 has a V-8 and costs $120k-$140k. Of course it's gonna be faster! Good greif, why was that comparison ever made?!

The NSX is a car that is very close to the cars, stock, that are twice it's price. Close enough to make people want to cry. It is a technological wonder with it's high output, N/A VTEC v6, exceptional chasis, highly advanced brakes, supsension, and transmission. all for under $100k if it's new! The prices for the F355 were for used! gooood greif! :roll: Show me another car that is advanced as the NSX and I'll show you a car that is way above it's price range!!

jimkk29
Dec 08, 2003, 4:56 PM
The stupid Ferrari F355 has a V-8 and costs $120k-$140k. Of course it's gonna be faster! Good greif, why was that comparison ever made?!
No, actually the NSX is faster. Not straight line maybe, but definitely around a track.

BluCamSS
Dec 08, 2003, 5:09 PM
The stupid Ferrari F355 has a V-8 and costs $120k-$140k. Of course it's gonna be faster! Good greif, why was that comparison ever made?!
No, actually the NSX is faster. Not straight line maybe, but definitely around a track.

No, not even on a track! Do a search for the Top Gear test!

jimkk29
Dec 08, 2003, 5:11 PM
Do you have a link for that?

igaboj
Dec 08, 2003, 6:21 PM
I'll explain "V-6 of doom" #1 VTEC!!! #2 tell me another car that gets 290 hp out of under 200cc of displacement without forced induction and regular 91' or whatever octane!! That is a demonic V-6!

The stupid Ferrari F355 has a V-8 and costs $120k-$140k. Of course it's gonna be faster! Good greif, why was that comparison ever made?!

The NSX is a car that is very close to the cars, stock, that are twice it's price. Close enough to make people want to cry. It is a technological wonder with it's high output, N/A VTEC v6, exceptional chasis, highly advanced brakes, supsension, and transmission. all for under $100k if it's new! The prices for the F355 were for used! gooood greif! :roll: Show me another car that is advanced as the NSX and I'll show you a car that is way above it's price range!!

amen......

igaboj
Dec 08, 2003, 6:26 PM
The NSX hasn't been redesigned since like 92 (can someone confirm this?), didn't a corvette have like 230 HP back then?

the only changes made to an NSX were an extra gear in the transmission, and different headlights; and that's it..................

once honda does redesign it though..........

BluCamSS
Dec 08, 2003, 7:02 PM
The NSX hasn't been redesigned since like 92 (can someone confirm this?), didn't a corvette have like 230 HP back then?

the only changes made to an NSX were an extra gear in the transmission, and different headlights; and that's it..................

once honda does redesign it though..........

Vette had 300 hp in '92.

igaboj
Dec 08, 2003, 8:35 PM
I'll explain "V-6 of doom" #1 VTEC!!! #2 tell me another car that gets 290 hp out of under 200cc of displacement without forced induction and regular 91' or whatever octane!! That is a demonic V-6!

The stupid Ferrari F355 has a V-8 and costs $120k-$140k. Of course it's gonna be faster! Good greif, why was that comparison ever made?!

The NSX is a car that is very close to the cars, stock, that are twice it's price. Close enough to make people want to cry. It is a technological wonder with it's high output, N/A VTEC v6, exceptional chasis, highly advanced brakes, supsension, and transmission. all for under $100k if it's new! The prices for the F355 were for used! gooood greif! :roll: Show me another car that is advanced as the NSX and I'll show you a car that is way above it's price range!!

amen......

maybe if you take the $ you would save not buying the F355, and use it for a twin turbo system... hmmmm.........

Ghalos
Dec 09, 2003, 1:14 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

All of ya'll need to shut the **** up...this is retarded...first off, the NSX is one of the best buys...wait...no it isn't...According to Motor Trend, and well, the LAWS OF FRICKIN' PHYSICS, the NSX's top speed is 163 mph...that's fast, no question...For $89,000 in 2003 I can go to my local Acura dealership and get a brand-new, 290 horsepower, V-6 equipped NSX...awesome styling, great performance, and at the same time manage to cry because I wasted money on a dated car that hasn't changed for the last 10 years...

Next, the newest NSX should be put up against a 360 MODENA...DUMBASS...god, take ANY NSX...put it up against a 360...guess who'll lose EVERYTIME...I don't care about top gear vids, put the same driver in both...someone who knows both really well...The 100 horsepower advantage will kick the NSX's ass...

Now, the buyer of a 360 will not likely care about an $89,000 ACURA...

Then...instead of going to my local Acura dealer...I could go to the local CHEVY dealer, and spend $56,000 for a commemorative edition, 405 horsepower, 400 lbs/ft of torque, 174 MPH top end, Corvette Z06, yeah, it doesn't look AS exotic, but let's face it, that's a sexy beast...

As a summary, I love NSX's, if I had 30 grand to spend on a fun car, let's say i use a Sable as day-to-day transport, I'd go buy a pre-owned NSX, they're gorgeous, and rare (where I live at least)...But, the fact of the matter is, the NSX is old, and outdated, finally, according to an owners survey as reported in Car and Driver AND Sports Car International, the owners (82%) of them, wish it had a V-8, and the new NSX doesn't seem to have one...
OH well...

I hope i didn't offend anyone...AIIIIGHT....BOYEEEE!!! 8) 8)

Ghalos
Dec 09, 2003, 1:20 AM
Is it me, or can anyone else see really good writing, what with all the parenthetical citations and the what not??!!?!

Hmmm...guess college is finally starting to have an effect...

Guess THAT means...hitting the bong more...

GUESS THAT means...ahhhh **** it... :lol:

igaboj
Dec 09, 2003, 2:09 AM
According to Motor Trend, and well, the LAWS OF FRICKIN' PHYSICS, the NSX's top speed is 163 mph...

Newer models top out at 175 mph

agitatedcorn
Dec 09, 2003, 11:00 AM
Either RX-7 or Impreza... can't decide...

sakuragi
Dec 09, 2003, 12:39 PM
first wit is performance and handling it really crack some punch out from the 4g63 engine .. a 2litre four turbo is every wonderboys first dream machine to have and it is really east to tweak it up to 340bhp!!!
the 4wd and active yaw control is truely unbelievable..i handle through corner just sticking to it it sterring responds and feel is very good and gives the driver full of confidence..
i sound like this car is perfect but not ever car is perfect in all term definately there is a weakness heheh :lol:

Mopar68
Dec 09, 2003, 2:01 PM
The NSX is the best damm japanese sportscar. Period. It has drop dead looks, great power and handling and is cheaper to import than a skyline. True, the NSX is very outdated, with it's chassis coming on it's 13th birthday. But it's still great. And it has a t-tops. It's the everyday supercar. You can take it to the track AND to pick up the kids.[/i]

BluCamSS
Dec 09, 2003, 3:59 PM
The NSX is the best damm japanese sportscar. Period. It has drop dead looks, great power and handling and is cheaper to import than a skyline. True, the NSX is very outdated, with it's chassis coming on it's 13th birthday. But it's still great. And it has a t-tops. It's the everyday supercar. You can take it to the track AND to pick up the kids.[/i]

I'd rather a Supra TT.

Ghalos
Dec 09, 2003, 5:01 PM
yeah...if you only have 1 kid
and you're not afraid of getting the interior all nastied up...hehe...
8)

Raith83
Dec 09, 2003, 5:34 PM
Whoops, I kinda messed up the NSX stats. I said 200 cc, not 200 cubi inches :oops: I will admit the Supra is a better value than the NSX,but that doesn't make it a better car. Also, Why change a car if it's 10 years ahead of its time :wink: Okay, in the case of the Mustang, which suffered the same fate for over 25 years, yes! Ford's neede to redesign this car in a good 20 years. The NSX is sweet and the mild body and engine modifications were made because unless they poured alot of money into developing a totally new one, they really couldn't make tha car any better! Don't bring American cars into this, it's discussing Japanese sports cars! Anyway, I'd rather pay the price difference between a Z06 Vette and the newest NSX because I know the NSX will last until I die and never rattle, squeak, or have any problems as long as I take care of it and don't drive the hell outof it. Anyway, price doesn't seem to be a factor in this comparison, so I still say the NSX is the best :!:

igaboj
Dec 09, 2003, 10:26 PM
any other opinions on cars other than the supra, NSX, and skyline?

supra-dre
Dec 10, 2003, 12:49 PM
The NSX does not have enough power to impress people that want to go in a straight line....but on a track, it will keep up with more powerful exotics! I cant choose one, my top picks are Supra for power, NSX and RX7 for race track handling and VR4 as GT- cruiser (AWD!)......i think they all look elegant and attractive, ....im not a big fan of four doors and sedan-looks (lancer,impreza and skyline) 300ZX looks very stylish and unique but I cant picture myself with one, stock it underperforms with its 300hp twinturbo.....g35 is not a sports car and TO ME, it doesnt look as nice as the 350Z...

99 si trbo
Dec 10, 2003, 10:11 PM
lmao, rather have a Supra than a NSX. HAHAHAHA. I can honestly say that's one of the funniest things ive heard in my life.

Max Powers
Dec 11, 2003, 1:09 AM
If you like fast cars the Supra would be the better choice.
The NSX does look better though.

I got a ride once in a Supra TT with mods, when he hit the gas it really puts a smile on your face :)

ausgeflippt13
Dec 23, 2003, 12:32 AM
If you could take the performance out of the EVO VIII and R34, combine it with the amazing reliability of the Supra, add to it a bit of the gorgeous smoothness of the RX-7 (rotary, baby), and then drop it all into the sweet body of the NSX, then you'd have one pimp ride. 8)

BUT, if I had to pick just one:

2nd gen RX-7 due to the rotary engine--sooo sweet! Second in line would probably be the Supra just 'cause I'm partial to 'Yotas.