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Black68SS
Dec 08, 2003, 1:39 AM
I am trying to build a camaro that can run in the mid to low 11's, already capable of 12's easy, but want to know what would be better on a small block chevy, turbos or supercharger and which brand? I already have a 500 hp motor, so it's fast enough, but it would be nice to have to charger ready for whatever comes up, heard turbos make too much heat and lag is bad etc...thanks for the help

jimkk29
Dec 08, 2003, 10:28 AM
If the turbos are new and good and are installed properly, they don't do lag etc.
So go for turbos, HKS or KKK or Garrett or IHI. My choice would be Garrett.

Max Powers
Dec 08, 2003, 11:18 AM
Well is your motor built for forced induction, if not I would have that done first.
A high compression motor + forced induction is going to equal kaboom.

Id go with a turbo setup, cause you don't often see old muscle cars with turbos.

Lag is only a problem on cars with huge turbos and engines that don't have alot of power till the turbo spools your motor wouldn't have much lag.

Look for a turbo shop in your area or a local car performance message board that should get you in the right direction.

1mic
Dec 14, 2003, 4:39 PM
i say supercharger, there more common on v8s and generally better.
check out my bros friends site: http://servinitup.com/240z.shtml
he has a 240z with '94 LT1 from a camaro bored & stroked to 383hp, then supercharged...
pushes 600hp, and races bikes (R6, R1, GSXR....)
& hks doesnt makes turbos for v8s

agitatedcorn
Dec 14, 2003, 9:12 PM
You can do a LOT more with a supercharger. You also might want to consider fiberglass or acid-dipped parts like quarter-panels or hoods :)

Black68SS
Dec 15, 2003, 7:29 PM
I understand that superchargers are more readily available for v8's and it is more common place, that is why I am trying to look elsewhere. There are a ton of v8 supercharged engines around here and I want to do something different. My motor is extremely built, too much compression for forced at the moment have to add blower pistons to do anything. I already am able to race a few bikes as I sit now. Ran a Ducati 7 series monster and a 996 and took them through my 4 speed but then they pulled on me when I ran it out of gears. I just want to do something different. Doesn't need to be easy or even make sense, but it would be way cooler to pull up and spool/blow off the turbos than it would to hear the supercharger running all the time. Thanks for the help I appreciate it alot

Raith83
Dec 15, 2003, 11:32 PM
yeah, turbos are best applied to 4 cylinder engines and even sixes more than V-8's just because of how they work. Turbo charging anything bigger than a V-6 gets really pricey and not worth it in the long run IMO.

jimkk29
Dec 16, 2003, 5:57 PM
It's pricey, yet very effective.

agitatedcorn
Dec 17, 2003, 1:48 PM
yeah, turbos are best applied to 4 cylinder engines and even sixes more than V-8's just because of how they work. Turbo charging anything bigger than a V-6 gets really pricey and not worth it in the long run IMO.

turbos also work well on rotary engines :wink:

shanemb3 (USA)
Dec 17, 2003, 9:59 PM
If you can do it while working around the fact you have two exhaust manifolds you should go turbo if you want different. You can do twin medium size turbos and it will make the car really quiet and really fast. But easier would be to puts a roots supercharger on it. As for lag...if your turbo isnt huge and you have the correct exhaust you shouldnt have any lag problems. But find someone who can tune your car. People lean out the motor and blow them if they dont know what they are doing.

intlcutlass
Mar 15, 2004, 2:44 PM
There is a reason why every performance 1/4 mile car with a Chevy 350 at the track is running superchargers rather than turbos......

mallon
Mar 15, 2004, 5:47 PM
If the turbos are new and good and are installed properly, they don't do lag etc.


u sure about that jim? :roll:

intlcutlass
Mar 15, 2004, 5:51 PM
If the turbos are new and good and are installed properly, they don't do lag etc.


u sure about that jim? :roll:


I am...if they are "sized" correctly you get no lag.

jimkk29
Mar 15, 2004, 5:56 PM
If the turbos are new and good and are installed properly, they don't do lag etc.

u sure about that jim? :roll:
Difficult, but feasible if a good job is done.

intlcutlass
Mar 15, 2004, 6:01 PM
If the turbos are new and good and are installed properly, they don't do lag etc.

u sure about that jim? :roll:
Difficult, but feasible if a good job is done.

Here is a quote from the TGP sales sheet:
"It is a 205HP turbocharged and intercooled 3.1L V6 that was used only in the TGP and no other car. By using a small Garrett Airesearch T-25 turbo, McLaren engineers were able to eliminate turbo lag altogether, while improving low-end power."

mallon
Mar 15, 2004, 6:21 PM
can i see the source
By the theory behind a turbo i dont see how you can eliminate turbo lag - by just good configuration of the turbo and NO other hardware.

BluCamSS
Mar 15, 2004, 7:05 PM
Turbochargers will always have at least a little lag.............

jimkk29
Mar 16, 2004, 5:38 AM
............almost not noticeable though, in good applications. :wink:

Mopar68
Mar 16, 2004, 2:12 PM
BS man, BS. from volvos to porsches, they all have turbo lag when they use a turbo.

intlcutlass
Mar 16, 2004, 2:25 PM
Proof???? OK....
Although you may have to resize this, when I bring it up it's small.....It's the first sentence under the engine specs:

http://www.turbograndprix.com/jim/TGPasc2.jpg

compactkiller
May 13, 2004, 4:25 PM
go blown man. you would have to spend the same amont of money for a single turbo as you would for a blower and wont get as good of a performance increaseout of it.you would have to twin turbo charge that engine to get as much as you would probaly want out of it. how ever you may not be able to run either due to your engines aready raised compression. a good rule of thumb to live with turbos and blowers is 8.5-1 to 9.5-1 ratio. any higher you could run into massive engine falure or worse severe detination

slowfiveoh
Aug 02, 2004, 2:39 AM
Just figured this was kinda on the same topic. Enjoy.

http://www.hoon.tk/tech_tips/qtv81.html

Ghalos
Aug 02, 2004, 3:49 AM
Christ...that's obscene... :shock:

M Technik
Aug 02, 2004, 7:49 AM
I've seen a twin-turbo setup on a 5.7L Gen III so that's close enough. It looks and sounds good. It pounds out tremendous power as well!!

slowfiveoh
Aug 02, 2004, 9:32 AM
I've seen a twin-turbo setup on a 5.7L Gen III so that's close enough. It looks and sounds good. It pounds out tremendous power as well!!

Probably an incon TT setup. Nowhere near this engines output. This thing uses 4 F1 spec turbos. Its simply awesome, and going into a pro streeter. :twisted: :D :shock:

SubaruKid37
Aug 02, 2004, 9:59 AM
Another topic rises from the dead...

M Technik
Aug 03, 2004, 5:00 AM
Another topic rises from the dead...

Yeh well, since absolutely no one is making up new topics, there is no choice but to bring up oldies.

SubaruKid37
Aug 03, 2004, 6:23 AM
Another topic rises from the dead...

Yeh well, since absolutely no one is making up new topics, there is no choice but to bring up oldies.
start one then :roll:
Although some people will kill that idea also...

BofoMills
Nov 03, 2004, 7:35 PM
First of all , Suit your engine for low compresion pistons. v8 , quite an imagination you have for cars with forced induction. True alot of v8's have blowers but having a turbo on a v8 is nice , yet very expensive. I would go with the turbo if i had the money but you still have to worry about setting your engine for all the extra horsepower your adding and your going to have to modify your tranny for the faster response time on that turbo. If you stick a pretty strong turbo on that car , prepare for the massive lag on it. I dont think any companies make turbos for v8's. In my opinion i would stick the blower on it and get massive power , besides it has faster response time on the start-off. How about getting a 5shifter tranny instead of that 4. Not like your drag racing ehh ?. If you have a carb and cant decide, try a Holley carb or a straight out eldebrock 4 barrel carb. Really nice since alot of people don't have those on there v8 besides blowers. My father had this setup on his Ford, that thing was awesome. Well this is my opinion.. I hope no one screams at me. 8)

Importfan
Nov 03, 2004, 7:38 PM
3 months, good timing for bringing back a topic

Kirstyn
Nov 03, 2004, 10:27 PM
he actually made a 1/2 decent post, dont bash him, thats only for people who bring back 13 month old topics with 'yeah sti are cool' *cough 999 cough*

Importfan
Nov 03, 2004, 10:33 PM
Im not bashing him im just saying that it was 3 months old, yes it was a good reply, im sorry if someone took that offensive

BofoMills
Nov 05, 2004, 4:52 PM
Oh im sorry. My computer is down and it has been a while sinced i posted. I posted this at a friends house.

crdjsph
Oct 11, 2006, 9:14 PM
haha, ok. well as far as i can see, both are a good choice, but turbos are way cooler. really, everyone check out this vid. in this i see no lag, fast as hell, and sounds amazing! http://thumbs.vidiac.com/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.jpg (http://www.sportscarforums.com/%3Ca%20href=)
Click to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm)">

and another turbocharged competitor, a dodge viper v-10! thats even more than a v8.

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/7aafef3e-729c-4d29-8f5b-98570037921b.jpg:eek: (http://www.sportscarforums.com/%3Ca%20href=)
Click to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/7aafef3e-729c-4d29-8f5b-98570037921b.htm)">

amazing videos i think.


(http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm)

AWDfreak
Oct 11, 2006, 9:21 PM
haha, ok. well as far as i can see, both are a good choice, but turbos are way cooler. really, everyone check out this vid. in this i see no lag, fast as hell, and sounds amazing! http://thumbs.vidiac.com/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.jpg (http://www.sportscarforums.com/%3Ca%20href=)
Click to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm)">

and another turbocharged competitor, a dodge viper v-10! thats even more than a v8.

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/7aafef3e-729c-4d29-8f5b-98570037921b.jpg:eek: (http://www.sportscarforums.com/%3Ca%20href=)
Click to see Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/7aafef3e-729c-4d29-8f5b-98570037921b.htm)">

amazing videos i think.


(http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm)
Whoa, please don't revive ancient threads, all you have to do is get permission from a mod to revive an ancient thread. And Welcome to SCF!!!!! Don't forget to re-read the rules.....

Heretic
Oct 11, 2006, 9:26 PM
Is there any legitimate reason for me to take the time to answer this? If it would benifit someone I will, but just doing it because some Noob revived an old thread is a waste of time