i'm a bit bored so...Who do you think will be the F1 team with the worse record next year. Thought we'd talk aobut something different instead of just the Top teams :lol:

NOT FERRARI OF COURSE THERE ARE THE BEST (Sarcasm) :!:

Minardi?

yeah i'm either thinking Minardi or Jaguar for next year they both suck

Minardi is much worse than Jaguar...

yeah i'm either thinking Minardi or Jaguar for next year they both suck

jaguar arent that bad - not bad enough to be comapred with minardi!!!

minardi where the only team last year to not score one point last year. Also they are the in the worst financial situation by far - jaguar have ford to back them up...

INdeed Mallon , our fav. Dutch racing driver was almost gonna drive for Jaguar that would be a Very big progression!!
You can't compare these team with each other!

Ciao ,

Danny

P.S oh Jos Verstappen will drive for Minardi again next year.. cause some VERY rich kid from the north BOUGHT a place at Jaguar :?
So after Verstappen came , it's easy to see Minardi made a GREAT progression... just not great enough yet!..
But we'll see next season ;)

Ciao!

I like ferrari for two things:
One - The F50 :twisted:
Two - The rich histroy :D
But I wish McLaren can win a championship once is a while :idea:

How about Jordan. I don't think they will score much points. Only as Verstappen will race for them :wink:

Verstappen in probably gonna race for them.. There are even some rumors we get 2 Dutch drivers in de F1 next year..

Christiaan Albers is maybe gonna jooin the Minardi F1 racing team.. his new sponsor is a Dutch one also... Wilux!

So we'll see.. Finally Jos His Sponsors said Rothengarther had to stop managing Jos Verstappen.. he's a *****!

Ciao , ?

Danny!

Verstappen in probably gonna race for them.. There are even some rumors we get 2 Dutch drivers in de F1 next year..

Christiaan Albers is maybe gonna jooin the Minardi F1 racing team.. his new sponsor is a Dutch one also... Wilux!

So we'll see.. Finally Jos His Sponsors said Rothengarther had to stop managing Jos Verstappen.. he's a [censored]!

Ciao , ?

Danny!

Yep, you're right. And about that thing about rothengather, you're so damn right!!!!!!

I like ferrari for two things:
One - The F50 :twisted:
Two - The rich histroy :D
But I wish McLaren can win a championship once is a while :idea:

i agree with dark_hunter on this one

Minardi is much worse than Jaguar...
yeah but minardi is buying a F1 car from one of the Top Teams, and I was hoping they let Jos drive in a Ferrari :lol:

oh no, never mind, Jos is probably going to Jordan, so never mind my alast post, but at least minardi would not be the worst next season, they gonna buy an entire car from one of the top teams, I hope its from Ferrari, but I dont know

Ferrari will probably win again, but i think Mercedes can put a good run in there

i just realized what i did.........oops!! Ferrari will win, and Mercedes in second, but I think that Jaguar will be worse......i didnt realize what thread i was posting in, im sorry for looking like an idiot :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Happy ther is still some one like you here Italian Saab....

Finally some smart person to disscuss with.!


I think your quite right... even the latest rules won't stop Ferrari...
I think they'll get again a quitye tough season BUT....at the last races Ferrari willl win again.. and i hope that so god damn much!

I think McLaren is gonna fall back.. Williams and or Renault / Toyota is coming in for the third team...

David Coulthard which still drive's for McLaren won't be able to score much points...
Kimi... hmm still not my favorit... and think he won't be that good as much people think...

Anyway... i can't wait. for season 2004!

I wish Ferrari wins again!

Italian Power 4 ever!

Ciao ,

Danny!

Yea Alfa, you know it. Ferrari is the ruler of Formula One racing. Im not even saying this out of bias toward Ferrari, but from history and the current drivers, Ferrari is superior. They have finished 1 and 3 in most races this year and Mercedes is usually 2nd. I dont know, Jaguar just usually sucks anyway, the racing team that is.

wat about BAR they aren't to good. jag is bad 2.!!!

BAR-Honda will definitely be good this year!!

for sure, maybe they can compete with renault. But i don't think they will compete with the McLaren, Ferrari and Williams...... yet

yeah i'm either thinking Minardi or Jaguar for next year they both suck

jaguar arent that bad - not bad enough to be comapred with minardi!!!

minardi where the only team last year to not score one point last year. Also they are the in the worst financial situation by far - jaguar have ford to back them up...
I AGREE...

yeah i'm either thinking Minardi or Jaguar for next year they both suck

jaguar arent that bad - not bad enough to be comapred with minardi!!!

minardi where the only team last year to not score one point last year. Also they are the in the worst financial situation by far - jaguar have ford to back them up...
I AGREE...
I disagree, Minardi has no money. Jaguar has the giant known as Ford to back them up, and even with all that mega money they still suck.

Because Ford doesn't put more money in it. They have not that much money then you expect from a car from a real brand

Toyota has the budget matching those of the top teams but got results matching the bottom teams.Something is so not right with them. McLaren must buck up so that Kimi has a chance :wink:

Toyota has the budget matching those of the top teams but got results matching the bottom teams.Something is so not right with them. McLaren must buck up so that Kimi has a chance :wink:

Actually this year Toyota has the highest budget. And if Australia was any sign they are looking pretty bad.

Toyota has the budget matching those of the top teams but got results matching the bottom teams.Something is so not right with them. McLaren must buck up so that Kimi has a chance :wink:

Actually this year Toyota has the highest budget. And if Australia was any sign they are looking pretty bad.

Completely true, 12 and 13 and 2 laps behind Schumi. That ain't good for a team with the highest budget

Completely true, 12 and 13 and 2 laps behind Schumi. That ain't good for a team with the highest budget

why is everyone saying toyota have the highest budget?
They dont, ferrari do.

Looks like McLaren has the highest budget--> http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft00356.html

wtf?
thats 2 years out of date & its on value not budget.

Ferrari have the highest budget.

wtf?
thats 2 years out of date & its on value not budget.
Ferrari have the highest budget.LOL, I knew I should of read it :lol:
It was the closest thing I could find :?

wtf?
thats 2 years out of date & its on value not budget.

Ferrari have the highest budget.

Not in 2004. Speed Channel has said many times this year Toyota has the highest budget.

wtf?
thats 2 years out of date & its on value not budget.
Ferrari have the highest budget.Not in 2004. Speed Channel has said many times this year Toyota has the highest budget.I'm going to guess because they sell more vehicles :)

wtf?
thats 2 years out of date & its on value not budget.
Ferrari have the highest budget.Not in 2004. Speed Channel has said many times this year Toyota has the highest budget.I'm going to guess because they sell more vehicles :)

That really has nothing to do with budget.
I mean Ferrari only sells about 4000 cars a year yet they have a huge budget.
Ferrari also has great sponsors (Malboro, Vodofone and Shell). And Fiat DOESN'T pay for the F1 budget, its almost all Ferrari.

Ferraris rich :D
So where does the budget come from :?:

Ferraris rich :D
So where does the budget come from :?:

1-sponsors
2-race winnings
3-Ferrari themselves

Ferraris rich :D
So where does the budget come from :?:
1-sponsors
2-race winnings
3-Ferrari themselvesCool :)

wtf?
thats 2 years out of date & its on value not budget.

Ferrari have the highest budget.

Not in 2004. Speed Channel has said many times this year Toyota has the highest budget.

:roll:

http://www.planet-f1.com/Features/Editorials/story_14136.shtml

I can assure you that ferrari has the highest budget. They get .5 billion from marloboro a season.

wtf?
thats 2 years out of date & its on value not budget.

Ferrari have the highest budget.

Not in 2004. Speed Channel has said many times this year Toyota has the highest budget.

:roll:

http://www.planet-f1.com/Features/Editorials/story_14136.shtml

I can assure you that ferrari has the highest budget. They get .5 billion from marloboro a season.

I don't know why you "assume" Ferrari has the highest budget. They did, but not this year. Its a well known fact that Toyota has a higher budget. Its been said during race coverage and in F1 magazine. But I'm sure they are liers. :roll:

im not assuming blu!
i know, and that article proves it if youd care to read it.

im not assuming blu!
i know, and that article proves it if youd care to read it.

Well I can tell you for sure Toyota has the highest budget for 2004.
If you care to believe it, well thats your choice.......

Its common knowledge in the F1 world, and I am a huge F1 fan and know all this stuff.

im not assuming blu!
i know, and that article proves it if youd care to read it.

Well I can tell you for sure Toyota has the highest budget for 2004.
If you care to believe it, well thats your choice.......

Its common knowledge in the F1 world, and I am a huge F1 fan and know all this stuff.

why do you say that?
I have just proven that ferrari has the highest budget.

PS there is no bigger F1 fan on this forum than me :P

im not assuming blu!
i know, and that article proves it if youd care to read it.

Well I can tell you for sure Toyota has the highest budget for 2004.
If you care to believe it, well thats your choice.......

Its common knowledge in the F1 world, and I am a huge F1 fan and know all this stuff.

why do you say that?
I have just proven that ferrari has the highest budget.

PS there is no bigger F1 fan on this forum than me :P

You didn't prove anything.
I KNOW Toyotas budget plan for 2004 is higher then Ferraris.
I have read it, and seen it on tv during qualifing for Australia.
Toyota Racing was granted a 15% increase in budget which puts them as the biggest spender in 2004.

mallon threw out a link for us observers of this disagreement. it was from january of this year, just a couple months ago. your turn to throw out a link for us, blucam!

It doesnt matter a bit if toyota has the highest or not,but we all know they have plenty of resources. They pid a king's ransom and get rubbish in return.
Anyway,the F1 circus is here in my place now and i am going to watch them.... :D

yeah i'm either thinking Minardi or Jaguar for next year they both suck
Jag's out of F1 they quite after this season....

Don't tell me your that dumb. This was topic was about the 2004 season, so Jaguar was still in the competition..........:roll: :roll:

I thought jag was done...i thought that was there last season...:-k :-k :-k :confused: :confused:

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