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igaboj
Dec 14, 2003, 1:26 AM
does anyone have anything good to say about it?

or complaints? (low power, sedan like handling....maybe?)

please leave reasons when voting :D

jimkk29
Dec 14, 2003, 11:08 AM
I don't know much about this car, so...
Seems good though.

igaboj
Dec 14, 2003, 1:31 PM
any reasons? :?

Max Powers
Dec 14, 2003, 2:34 PM
The new model is slow, but its a not a bad looking car.

The best deal is a early 90s awd turbo model, cheap to get in the 12s.

Realm II
Dec 14, 2003, 3:28 PM
they are no good pice of crap cars granted the turbo AWD are nice cars still not reliable. they dont have the power or handling i think they should.

agitatedcorn
Dec 14, 2003, 4:13 PM
they are no good pice of crap cars granted the turbo AWD are nice cars still not reliable. they dont have the power or handling i think they should.

yeah poor quality and unreliable, the true poor man's sport's car :lol:

jimkk29
Dec 14, 2003, 4:30 PM
any reasons? :?
I don't know... I've never seen one up close (doesn't exist in Europe) so I can't really form an opinion.

igaboj
Dec 14, 2003, 5:38 PM
read that mitsubishi will come out w/ a new eclipse that will have a 3.8 liter engine.... :x (i don't like cars with too much displacement; it makes them too american) instead, they should put a turbo system similar to the one on the EVO VIII; that would turn the eclipse into a much better sports car...(except for the handling)

BluCamSS
Dec 14, 2003, 6:23 PM
they are no good pice of crap cars granted the turbo AWD are nice cars still not reliable. they dont have the power or handling i think they should.

Thats not totally true, my buddy has a 90 turbo that runs 12.8 and hardly ever breaks......

agitatedcorn
Dec 14, 2003, 9:07 PM
they are no good pice of crap cars granted the turbo AWD are nice cars still not reliable. they dont have the power or handling i think they should.

Thats not totally true, my buddy has a 90 turbo that runs 12.8 and hardly ever breaks......

Yeah but with none of the original parts :lol: :lol: :lol:

agitatedcorn
Dec 14, 2003, 9:09 PM
read that mitsubishi will come out w/ a new eclipse that will have a 3.8 liter engine.... :x (i don't like cars with too much displacement; it makes them too american) instead, they should put a turbo system similar to the one on the EVO VIII; that would turn the eclipse into a much better sports car...(except for the handling)

I think it's a good idea, finally, a lower-end Japanese automobile with a little more power 8)

BluCamSS
Dec 14, 2003, 10:07 PM
they are no good pice of crap cars granted the turbo AWD are nice cars still not reliable. they dont have the power or handling i think they should.

Thats not totally true, my buddy has a 90 turbo that runs 12.8 and hardly ever breaks......

Yeah but with none of the original parts :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually 90% of the engine is original....
Different turbo, intercooler, downpipe, exhaust and axles....

The big question here is what year we talking about?
The 1st and 2nd gen were MUCH better then the new ones.

igaboj
Dec 15, 2003, 2:03 AM
well, i'm kinda talking about the new 03 eclipse :)

BluCamSS
Dec 15, 2003, 12:46 PM
well, i'm kinda talking about the new 03 eclipse :)

Oh, i am not really a big fan of those....sorry lol.

Raith83
Dec 15, 2003, 2:49 PM
The American exclusive Eclipse GSX was the best one ever. The styling was 20 years ahead of its time and it performed like nothing else in that price range. It was one of those cars in the Golden Age of Japanese imports to America when you could still geta twin turbo RX-7 and a Supra RZ in the States. When I saw them using a new Mitsu. Eclipse in 2 Fast 2 Furious, I wanted to cry. Anything NOT GSX is Eclipse crap! The new one is bigger, slower, and I really don't like the styling or design at all! From what I hear, the next gen. Eclipse will be based on an even BIGGER Chassis that it will share with the larger Mitsubishi cars. It is NOT a sports car and NOT worth tuning. What was once the awesome Eclipse is now a simple nostalgic lump, aimed at ill-informed young buyers. If the old Eclipse has been replaced by anything in the price range it was once in, it would be the Lancer Ralliart, but thats still a N/A FWD car. Turbo and AWD will cost you an arm and a leg since they have figured out that more people are aware of that awesome potential and willing to pay the price.

Thlam
Dec 15, 2003, 6:00 PM
I love the Eclipse its a great solid car that can compeate well with the celica and RSX, it looks awsome too

igaboj
Dec 15, 2003, 6:10 PM
I love the Eclipse its a great solid car that can compeate well with the celica and RSX, it looks awsome too

what about it's un-inspired handling and low power/ bad power/weight ratio?

agitatedcorn
Dec 15, 2003, 6:14 PM
they are no good pice of crap cars granted the turbo AWD are nice cars still not reliable. they dont have the power or handling i think they should.

Thats not totally true, my buddy has a 90 turbo that runs 12.8 and hardly ever breaks......

Yeah but with none of the original parts :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually 90% of the engine is original....
Different turbo, intercooler, downpipe, exhaust and axles....

The big question here is what year we talking about?
The 1st and 2nd gen were MUCH better then the new ones.

well then he must have ONE HELL OF A TURBO!!! :shock: :?

Thlam
Dec 15, 2003, 6:28 PM
I love the Eclipse its a great solid car that can compeate well with the celica and RSX, it looks awsome too

what about it's un-inspired handling and low power/ bad power/weight ratio?


i don't love it for its performance but for its looks, its a great car for city driving

igaboj
Dec 15, 2003, 9:53 PM
I love the Eclipse its a great solid car that can compeate well with the celica and RSX, it looks awsome too

what about it's un-inspired handling and low power/ bad power/weight ratio?


i don't love it for its performance but for its looks, its a great car for city driving

it looks good, but if you're gonna use it for city driving, i'd rather have like an accord coupe or a solara

BluCamSS
Dec 15, 2003, 10:34 PM
they are no good pice of crap cars granted the turbo AWD are nice cars still not reliable. they dont have the power or handling i think they should.

Thats not totally true, my buddy has a 90 turbo that runs 12.8 and hardly ever breaks......

Yeah but with none of the original parts :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually 90% of the engine is original....
Different turbo, intercooler, downpipe, exhaust and axles....

The big question here is what year we talking about?
The 1st and 2nd gen were MUCH better then the new ones.

well then he must have ONE HELL OF A TURBO!!! :shock: :?

Not sure what one, I know he has a lot of boost and 4 drag radials.

Raith83
Dec 15, 2003, 10:50 PM
Oh, just for authenticities sake, the 1997 GSX makes 210hp @ 6000 rpm and 214 lb-ft of torque @ 3000 rpm with the turbo I-4. The newest Eclipse, top of the line GTS V-6 makes the same hp @ 5750 rpm and 9 fewer lb-ft of torque @ 750 more rpm. Oh, did I mention the GSX has better fuel economy? Wait, the GSX has AWD as opposed to the GTS and it's FWD. Anyway, the Eclipse has swerved from it's roots towards an ugly path as far as I can see.

igaboj
Dec 16, 2003, 2:18 AM
Oh, just for authenticities sake, the 1997 GSX makes 210hp @ 6000 rpm and 214 lb-ft of torque @ 3000 rpm with the turbo I-4. The newest Eclipse, top of the line GTS V-6 makes the same hp @ 5750 rpm and 9 fewer lb-ft of torque @ 750 more rpm. Oh, did I mention the GSX has better fuel economy? Wait, the GSX has AWD as opposed to the GTS and it's FWD. Anyway, the Eclipse has swerved from it's roots towards an ugly path as far as I can see.

EXACTLY what i was trying to say :lol:

agitatedcorn
Dec 17, 2003, 1:45 PM
Oh, just for authenticities sake, the 1997 GSX makes 210hp @ 6000 rpm and 214 lb-ft of torque @ 3000 rpm with the turbo I-4. The newest Eclipse, top of the line GTS V-6 makes the same hp @ 5750 rpm and 9 fewer lb-ft of torque @ 750 more rpm. Oh, did I mention the GSX has better fuel economy? Wait, the GSX has AWD as opposed to the GTS and it's FWD. Anyway, the Eclipse has swerved from it's roots towards an ugly path as far as I can see.

not bad...

ausgeflippt13
Dec 23, 2003, 12:21 AM
Well, I'm not much of an Eclipse connoiseur, but of the dealings with Eclipses that I've had, I would have to agree with BluCamSS in saying that the 1st and 2nd gen Eclipses were much better than the new ones (the 1st and 2nd gen ones were easier to mod, sharper handling, more like a sports car, looked more street (racing)-worthy); I'm not a huge fan of the new ones. I'm hoping that they'll make a comeback in the 4th gen ones (if they're still alive).

Raith83
Dec 24, 2003, 9:40 PM
The next generation Eclipses will be based on an even larger chassis than the current model. They will have to really refine the bodywork and have a hell of an engine to reclaim this cars sport performance heritage.

jake_03
Dec 24, 2003, 10:22 PM
Dood, the eclipse is awesome. Sure it dosen't have the most power, but if you put some money into it, it can be a street weapon. My friend has an all wheel drive that will run the quarter mile in 12.4 sec!!!

sr20det_swapper
Jan 07, 2004, 9:00 PM
I love the Eclipse its a great solid car that can compeate well with the celica and RSX, it looks awsome too

what about it's un-inspired handling and low power/ bad power/weight ratio?


i don't love it for its performance but for its looks, its a great car for city driving

it looks good, but if you're gonna use it for city driving, i'd rather have like an accord coupe or a solara

thats is a good remark but if you would like to show off your car then i dont now i would wanna be in an acord or a solora not that theres anything worng with that

B Deuce
Jan 18, 2004, 10:20 PM
89-99 DSMs are not that bad in quality. No more issues than other models when you look at the grand scheme of things, but a great Thank God that they were built by Mitsubishi and not Chrysler (recall every other week). The only real issue on GSX models was crankwalk, and from what I understand it was not an expensive repair.

Plus the DSMs used the 4g63 turbo engine, same as an EVO from then and now, so its got mad potential.

...When I saw them using a new Mitsu. Eclipse in 2 Fast 2 Furious, I wanted to cry...

I did too when I learned that that eclipse is also a Sebring and Stratus Coupe, and that there was no factory turbo.

Attaus
Jan 19, 2004, 12:01 AM
IMO the Eclipse is nothing special.. Its just another 4-cylinder tuner with un-inspired styling. I would much rather have a Nissan 300zx with 300 horsepower and sweet sound turbos. :shock: Thats just off the top of my head. If your into rebuilding A LOT then a 1990 Eclipse GSX or whatever the AWD model is, is pretty good. Another alternative is an MR2 Turbo. A mid-engine turbo that gives out around the same hp yet is like 500lbs lighter and is MUCH more aerodynamic and stylish.

http://www.volny.cz/mitsubishi.eclipse/P1010194.jpg

:(

http://www.imoc.co.uk/users/upload/MR2%201.JPG

:twisted:

B Deuce
Jan 19, 2004, 12:44 AM
Toyota fanatic right here. I tried to make a Camry 4 banger a sleeper, but mine is nickel and diming me to death so its gotta go. I would sport an ST202 or ST205 Celica but the ST202 has the same engine as my Cam (weak 135hp 5sfe 2.2) and the ST205 is not an A-spec model (Celica GT-Four).

MR2 is coo (same 2.2 as the Cam), the Turbo (3SGTE/SW20) is better, but in that car, blown engines are all too common, and since the only decent power celica is out of my price range, the only thing left is to abandon Toyota for the time being and hit up Mitsubishi/Eagle. The 4G63 has the same hp and tunability in the DSM as the Turbo MR2, cost less to fix up, and has interchangeable parts with the Evo. Once I got the funds and Toyota comes up with a decent sport compact replacement for the celica, i'll be switching back to that, especially since Mitsu's really getting messed up with this DaimlerChrysler platform sharing.