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expert123
Dec 23, 2003, 6:55 AM
Japanese cars are the most reliable
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Who can agree with that? It's true

Dutchmarshall
Dec 23, 2003, 10:59 AM
im with you, and they are economical

igaboj
Dec 23, 2003, 12:52 PM
you've got support here!

welcome to the forum expert123

BluCamSS
Dec 23, 2003, 2:27 PM
Japanese cars are the most reliable


....and boring.

jimkk29
Dec 23, 2003, 6:17 PM
Yes they are probably the most reliable cars, especially in their mechanical parts.

Vertygo
Dec 23, 2003, 6:24 PM
proved by many big companies that japanese are the most reliable...

Realm II
Dec 23, 2003, 11:05 PM
yes they are but thats only one side of the story an import is only as good as it is taken care of and i have seen a lot of US cars that are just as good and then not to put out german cars. how many here would not take a german car over anythig.

x-man
Dec 23, 2003, 11:40 PM
A perfect example that Japanese cars are very reliable,
I drive a 1998 Honda Civic dx with 147,000 km on it, I bought it brand new and the
only problem I had with it is the replacement of the 4 way flasher botton whitch
was covered under warrenty.
So japanese cars are defenetly very reliable cars!!!

Geo_x
Dec 24, 2003, 9:52 AM
Yeah, Japanese cars are the most reliable, but not all of them. . .

Raith83
Dec 24, 2003, 10:07 PM
Japanese cars, as a whole, are the most reliable cars on the planet. This leads to a good deal more tuning and modification beccause they can handle more aftermarket and performance parts in general than anything else. European cars don't really need any tuning and whatever you DO do to it it's fairly expensive and done by a company that's been in the buisness for a while. Oh, yeah! look at all these 'boring' cars *cough* :
http://www.fast-autos.net/infiniti/g352.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/mazda/04rx8.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/mitsubishi/eclipsegsx.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/mitsubishi/fq330.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/nissan/r33.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/nissan/300zx.jpg
sorry for taking up so much space and for the sarcasim, but some people just say very ignorant things.

FDR
Dec 24, 2003, 10:33 PM
I think Jap cars suck. They are boring, what do they make 5 decent real sports cars?

igaboj
Dec 25, 2003, 12:07 AM
I think Jap cars suck. They are boring, what do they make 5 decent real sports cars?

yeah, isn't having to fix your car ever 100 miles SOOOOOO FUN!??? :lol:

Raith83
Dec 25, 2003, 4:49 AM
get your pillows ready, because I guess there needs to be more examples of the 'boring' Japanese cars. I swear, some people need everything spoon fed ot them. "only 5 decent sports cars?" , what rock do some people crawl out from under?:
http://fast-autos.net/nissan/silvia.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/nissan/skyline.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/subaru/sti.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/honda/prelude.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/honda/02nsxr3.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/honda/04s200013.jpg

Raith83
Dec 25, 2003, 5:14 AM
what's that? I'm not done yet? Yeah, I feel I need to drive this point even harder with a very large hammer. Oh, no! so many boring cars!! These are just the best and more recent examples too. We don't get all of the cars that Japan makes, and also the US spec imports have less performance than the JDM spec ones. Japan makes boring cars like America makes hatchbacks ; and reliable, quality built cars like the US makes SUV's and Trucks :lol:
http://fast-autos.net/lexus/is3003.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/lexus/gs4304.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/toyota/mr2turbo.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/toyota/97supra.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/acura/integra.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/acura/rsx10.jpg
aaaaaand I'm done! :mrgreen:

Thlam
Dec 25, 2003, 3:09 PM
SOme people consider Japanese cars boring but for the most aprt you can call any countrie's cars boring like America or Germany Where there are Opels, Buicks and A bunch of Chevy Malibus running around

Thlam
Dec 25, 2003, 3:10 PM
argh why does everybody always forget the mitsubishi FTO!
http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/fto-95-t001-fl_t004-ss.jpg

dark_hunter
Dec 25, 2003, 3:17 PM
Raith83 you forgot the 350z :!: That is definitely not boring :D

jimkk29
Dec 25, 2003, 5:44 PM
Raith, you absolutely told 'em! :wink:

350Z:

http://www.highresautoimages.com/wotd/25121024.jpg

igaboj
Dec 25, 2003, 7:57 PM
don't forget the RX-7 either!

Max Powers
Dec 26, 2003, 12:07 AM
I think Jap cars suck. They are boring, what do they make 5 decent real sports cars?

yeah, isn't having to fix your car ever 100 miles SOOOOOO FUN!??? :lol:

Yeah american cars need to be fixed every 100 miles :roll:

Raith83
Dec 26, 2003, 10:46 PM
Aw, gimme a break guys. I said that wasn't all of them! :lol: oh, and the FTO, I don't know if that ever made it to US shores, so I really wasn't considering it. Also, I didn't wanna be yelled at for putting up too many pictures :mrgreen:

Thlam
Dec 27, 2003, 12:45 PM
i just thought of another one
Subaru Legacy B4
http://www.subaruufa.ru/b4/g17.jpg
the old RSK version did 0-60 in 5.4
and 1/4 miles mid 13s and low 14s!

Geo_x
Dec 27, 2003, 12:57 PM
Except Honda, Mazda, Subaru, some models of Nissan, and some models of Mitsubishi which they look like European. All the others suck! ! ! The may be reliable but they are ugly. . .

dark_hunter
Dec 27, 2003, 3:37 PM
The may be reliable but they are ugly. . .Whatever :roll:

FDR
Dec 27, 2003, 4:54 PM
Except Honda, Mazda, Subaru, some models of Nissan, and some models of Mitsubishi which they look like European. All the others suck! ! ! The may be reliable but they are ugly. . .

I agree, they have a few nice cars....but they over-design some cars by adding WAY to many body kits, flares, stupid wings and so on.

Raith83
Dec 27, 2003, 5:37 PM
Mmmm, I did forget about the Legacy. I hope they sell that in the States so bad! :shock:

Thlam
Dec 27, 2003, 6:20 PM
Except Honda, Mazda, Subaru, some models of Nissan, and some models of Mitsubishi which they look like European. All the others suck! ! ! The may be reliable but they are ugly. . .

I agree, they have a few nice cars....but they over-design some cars by adding WAY to many body kits, flares, stupid wings and so on.


who is adding the body kits and stupid wings, not Honda or any other Manufacturer but people who drive them. Geo can u tell me whihc Mitsubishi models look european this is the first time i've heard a comment like that

BluCamSS
Dec 27, 2003, 8:45 PM
who is adding the body kits and stupid wings, not Honda or any other Manufacturer but people who drive them.

The people huh? STI, Evo, later 3000 GTs, last of the 2nd gen Eclipse, some Civics, Supra (but I like that one lol)..........

Thlam
Dec 27, 2003, 9:03 PM
those wings acutally serve prurpose because they are real performance cars, and let me ask u this why is it that a STi or evo can't have a wing but a Chevy Camaro or Ford mustang for example. If the wing is for purpose and looks alright( but beauty is in the eye of the beholder) then wings it shall have.

BluCamSS
Dec 27, 2003, 9:37 PM
those wings acutally serve prurpose.

99% of them don't do crap unless your doing well over 100 mph.

Thlam
Dec 28, 2003, 12:36 AM
well the STi evo, supra, and supra were ment to do over 100mph

Geo_x
Dec 28, 2003, 12:22 PM
Geo can u tell me whihc Mitsubishi models look european this is the first time i've heard a comment like that
Lancer Evo 8, Pajero Sport, Outlander

RiceBoy
Dec 28, 2003, 1:40 PM
well the STi evo, supra, and supra were ment to do over 100mph

sry to be picky but u put supra twice....

oh...and btw...the kits that ppl buy actually look cheap...while factory ones seem to blend in that i dont really care that much...

BluCamSS
Dec 28, 2003, 2:25 PM
well the STi evo, supra, and supra were ment to do over 100mph

Not the point....picnic table wings are stupid and ugly anyway....

Thlam
Dec 28, 2003, 5:13 PM
yes they are but the point i'm trying to get across is companies don't add these picnic table wings on its the people that own them who do!

Raith83
Dec 29, 2003, 6:03 AM
Race cars have spoilers because they go insanely fast. Who wants to drive a race car? Lots of people!! So companies put spoilers, large or small, on thier cars. Some are functional, some aren't. Some body kits reduce the drag coeffecient, some don't. I'm not gonna whine and complain about what other people put on their car because that is their own buisness and their own choice. I don't have to look at a car with a 5 foil spoiler if I'm stupid enough to get mad and angry about it. I see it and look away, simple as that, I don't stress over some trite and meaningless thing. What matters to me is my car and what I'm doing to it. I see something I like, I'll marvel at it and tell the driver what I think if I get the chance. I see something that doesn't groove with what I like, i'll simply move on, no stress, I add another day to my lifespan. 8)

jimkk29
Dec 29, 2003, 4:43 PM
You really cool Raith. 8)

Max Powers
Dec 31, 2003, 5:03 PM
I like seeing the people with the big metal spoilers gives me something to laugh at on the drive to work :)
I have seen two Z06 with those types of spoilers what a disgrace.

BluCamSS
Dec 31, 2003, 7:14 PM
I have seen two Z06 with those types of spoilers what a disgrace.

Are you serious?

Max Powers
Dec 31, 2003, 7:49 PM
I have seen two Z06 with those types of spoilers what a disgrace.

Are you serious?

You would think a Z06 owner wouldn't do that, maybe daddy bought them the car and thought it looked cool :roll:
One was in Naples and the other was in Bradenton, you see some crazy cars in Florida more reason to buy a digital camera :)

BluCamSS
Dec 31, 2003, 8:38 PM
I have seen two Z06 with those types of spoilers what a disgrace.

Are you serious?

You would think a Z06 owner wouldn't do that, maybe daddy bought them the car and thought it looked cool :roll:
One was in Naples and the other was in Bradenton, you see some crazy cars in Florida more reason to buy a digital camera :)

OMG.

dark_hunter
Jan 02, 2004, 12:23 AM
Race cars have spoilers because they go insanely fast. Who wants to drive a race car? Lots of people!! So companies put spoilers, large or small, on thier cars. Some are functional, some aren't. Some body kits reduce the drag coeffecient, some don't. I'm not gonna whine and complain about what other people put on their car because that is their own buisness and their own choice. I don't have to look at a car with a 5 foil spoiler if I'm stupid enough to get mad and angry about it. I see it and look away, simple as that, I don't stress over some trite and meaningless thing. What matters to me is my car and what I'm doing to it. I see something I like, I'll marvel at it and tell the driver what I think if I get the chance. I see something that doesn't groove with what I like, i'll simply move on, no stress, I add another day to my lifespan. 8) Well said

Attaus
Jan 04, 2004, 11:29 PM
I typed in fast car on google images and except for a couple of hookers all you get is japanese cars. So they're fast and boring?? :roll:
Acura NSX-T - 5.0 seconds - 168mph
Nissan 300ZX Turbo - 5.2 sec - 154mph
Toyota Supra Twin Turbo - 4.6 sec - 155 mph
Mazda RX7 - 5.4 sec - 158mph
Mitsubishi 3000GT - 5.5 sec - 154mph

Umm.. ok.. real boring guys. :roll: And if thats not enough

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/08/350z04_04.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/eclipse_blanche2.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/skyline.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/06/imprezawrxsti03_05.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/celica_trd_01.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/08/nsx02_06.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/01/accordconcept03_01_800.jpg

DAM THOSE ARE BORING. :roll:
AND thats only new cars! I couldn't get any pics of the classics.. 300z's 280z's VR4s you name it. :twisted:

White-Night
Jan 05, 2004, 6:57 AM
you got a little confused over here ,

regular japanes cars are more reliable than europian cars , becouse of one reason , they use old devices and mechnical stuff .
such as old automatic gear box with 4 transmitions and no electronic stuff for confort or other little things .

mainly the europians are much better specially when it comes to comfort and behavior , becouse of all the electronic system they have , for example the C5 is really comfrtable , its big and well built and so on , but it have one major problem , it have to many electroic failures .
electronic failures you can find in more french cars .
as for the american cars i don't have any information couse i don't really like them , i think the are too soft , an old fashioned and not well built engine a non responding steering and the suspenions :?

if you ment sports cars , then th diffrence is alot more smaller if there is !
mainly "pure" sports cars are built with no electronic stuff to get a lowered weight , and so on , so in that way the europians are better easy .
when talking about regualr sports cars rhe diffrence is small , the japanes are a little bit more reliable but the europians are better handling , built with better materials and more improved than the japanes .

if you ask me i prefer to go to the garage a little more but really ENJOY my ride

jimkk29
Jan 05, 2004, 8:24 AM
Well said, nice post White-Night. :wink:

White-Night
Jan 06, 2004, 8:50 AM
Well said, nice post White-Night. :wink:

thanks jim ,
i just saw that the thred became real offtopic ! too many pics with no real answer for the question .

any ways , i still prefer europian cars :)

Raith83
Jan 12, 2004, 2:41 PM
before anyone decides to post any more pics and kill peoples bandwidth.....*chachunk!*