This new race car is the replacement of the succesful Audi R8 an it will be powered by a DIESEL V10 engine with two Turbos. It's spected to debut at the 24 Hours of Le Mans next year.
http://clabedan.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/audi_r10.jpg

That's bulls**t. This is a pic from the first version of the Audi R8 that raced in 1999.

That's bulls**t. This is a pic from the first version of the Audi R8 that raced in 1999.

I don't know. They don't look too similar in my opinion.

If I'm right that '99 version was called R8R instead of R8. But this is it on the picture, I'm 100% positive.

The pic may be wrong but the info is right.

I've been hearing about this for at least two years. Audi wants to win LeMans with a diesel, that's for sure. Just imagine the advertising if they succeed !!!

yuck, that looks horrible!

Crossle is right, that is the '99 R8R (http://www.mulsannescorner.com/audir8r-99-1.html)(click!). And it's also no secret that Audi wants to win Le Mans with a diesel powered car.

Looks horible.
I think they tested that engine in a Gallardo.

I think they tested that engine in a Gallardo.

Hahaha a Diesel V10 on a Gallardo :D . I wolud like to see that...really, I mean it. I'm just wondering how many Km/l that Gallardo could do :-k

Somewhere like 5km/l When is the last time Audi won the LM race????

Somewhere like 5km/l When is the last time Audi won the LM race????Are you kidding ?:-k

They won LeMans in 2000-2001-2002-2004-2005 !!!
In 2003 it was a Bentley with an Audi engine !

An Audi engine has never blown in an endurance race!!! Talk about superior engineering !

diesel?

Can anyone tell me if there is any advantage to diesel vs gasoline? IMO gasoline is much better.

Fuel economy during the race will be better : less pit stops. So they will gain time there.

Then the diesel should have more torque, so better acceleration out of the turns and probably less shifting too.

And with today's diesel technology it should be as fast as the gas cars.

Very interesting article about the Perkins developed VW Taureg V10 diesel used in Taurus Racing's #10 Lola last lear at LeMans.

http://www.perkins.com/perkins/cda/articleDisplay/1,4094,7___32_____7_10022049,00.html

Nice article Steve. This was a small budget team but imagine the results with all of Audi' strenght behind it...

We're close to see a "clap,clap,clap" win LeMans !

Are you kidding ?:-k

They won LeMans in 2000-2001-2002-2004-2005 !!!
In 2003 it was a Bentley with an Audi engine !

An Audi engine has never blown in an endurance race!!! Talk about superior engineering !

Now that's superior.I nvr knew they were reigning champions.

Great Thread!

Does Audi already have a diesel V-10 for it, or do they it in developement?

I think they want to use the V10 diesel from the Touareg

I think they want to use the V10 diesel from the Touareg A lazy SUV engine, in one of the best sportscars ever:-k

At the Petit LeMans the C6-R Vettes sounded lazy compared to the DB9s, but they got the job done.

Anyone reading the LeMans Diesel article (you have to click the link at bottom for 2nd page) should have taken note of the following 3 facts:

1. Most of their problems were clutch and transaxle. Currently available for purchase components (for purpose built/prototype racing) were not designed for high torque @ low RPM. Cubic VW/Audi megabucks will make that problem go away.

2. In testing and DNF's the engine ran 33 hours w/o any teardown. The fuel lubricated longevity of the diesel seems to apply even in racing.

3. The car could run 50% more laps on fuel than gas(petrol) burning cars. That's worth a chunk of speed.

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The 1980 ARVW diesel Nardo streamliner still holds the standing start 1 HR and 500 km world records @ 219/214 MPH(353/345 KPH). It's paltry 255HP was produced by a turbo/intercooled 2.4L SOHC 2V VW diesel. It was capable of 39 mpg @ 155 MPH.(!) This is the same engine that has bored legions of drivers/followers of Volvo D's for decades.

A smoker/choker/diesel slowpoker may turn out to be a stinker in endurance racing...

Can anyone tell me if there is any advantage to diesel vs gasoline? IMO gasoline is much better.Making everyone else feel stupid when they get beaten by a diesel race car, duh.

At the Petit LeMans the C6-R Vettes sounded lazy compared to the DB9s, but they got the job done.

Anyone reading the LeMans Diesel article (you have to click the link at bottom for 2nd page) should have taken note of the following 3 facts:

1. Most of their problems were clutch and transaxle. Currently available for purchase components (for purpose built/prototype racing) were not designed for high torque @ low RPM. Cubic VW/Audi megabucks will make that problem go away.

2. In testing and DNF's the engine ran 33 hours w/o any teardown. The fuel lubricated longevity of the diesel seems to apply even in racing.

3. The car could run 50% more laps on fuel than gas(petrol) burning cars. That's worth a chunk of speed.

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The 1980 ARVW diesel Nardo streamliner still holds the standing start 1 HR and 500 km world records @ 219/214 MPH(353/345 KPH). It's paltry 255HP was produced by a turbo/intercooled 2.4L SOHC 2V VW diesel. It was capable of 39 mpg @ 155 MPH.(!) This is the same engine that has bored legions of drivers/followers of Volvo D's for decades.

A smoker/choker/diesel slowpoker may turn out to be a stinker in endurance racing... Yeah they had a dane in the winning corvette for 2. in year in a row. Jan Magnussen Pwn the GTS clas. Tom Kristensen Pwn it all.

bossesjoe:

I took a 2 week European road trip w/my Dad long ago. He was on medical leave from flying due to outpatient hernia surgery; and was unable drive for more than an hour at a time. As a result, he had lots of commentary from the right seat.

Our rental was an manual trans MB 190 2.0L carb rated 107ps DIN. In autostrada traffic eastbound from Milan, I was behind a Lancia Thema 2.0 TD. When traffic cleared, the Thema puffed a bit of black smoke, then proceeded to put the taillights closer together. I had nothing for him.

My Dad said, "I can't wait 'til we get home to Georgia." I asked why. His response was, "So I can tell all your friends you got your ass smoked by a diesel!" Funny as hell!

btw, a week later I clocked the 190 for 10km @ 126.5 mph in cool, still air on level road. Obviously the Thema had an aerodynamic advantage. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Do Danes have a habit of hitching rides? Jan Magnussen did no more than that at Sebring and Road Atlanta. How does that "Pwn" (own?) J/K...

The 'Vettes were under team orders from mid-season on... no passing unless the other guy breaks. This direct from J. O.

Ok, the R10 is going to use a purpose built engine specifically for endurance racing, just like any other company series to win Le Mans, and there ar few as series as audi.

The problems with diesels is that they produce enough torque to tear the gearbox apart in an instant, but i heard audi expects to get 4-5 laps extra out of a diesel at Le Mans, witch means 12-20 laps at ordinary length race tracks.

Ok, the R10 is going to use a purpose built engine specifically for endurance racing, just like any other company series to win Le Mans, and there ar few as series as audi.

The problems with diesels is that they produce enough torque to tear the gearbox apart in an instant, but i heard audi expects to get 4-5 laps extra out of a diesel at Le Mans, witch means 12-20 laps at ordinary length race tracks.The gearbox dosn't matter, if they get a driver who only has made one single gearshift failure, in his nine year career, as racedriver. + he has the fastest lap ever on the Le Mans track, Cicuit de La Sarthe. :smt023

damn, nice thread!
and when you thought you saw everything ... you see something new

so those guys(first page link to small private racing team) took a v10 tuareg twin-turbo and got 525bhp??? OMG !!!
i'm still waiting on banks turbo on the 6.6 gm v8 tdi
and definately the audi R10
i wonder how's the acceleration, and LAG ???
PS : usually the torque NM (newton-meters in metric system) is more than twice the power<bhp> (in diesel engines) so divide that by 1.356 and get the lb-ft torque
so the tuareg twin turbo must do more than 1000nm = +700lb-ft (~the new 730bhp brabus S-klasse), so it could do 0-60 ~ 4sec(i know engines r different but judging by torque figures... )
just like the current Gallardo, but i think the quarter mile would be quicker('cause of the torque)

dunno you saw this? or is old news
(Dodge RAM - 5.9 L cummins Turbo 730bhp/1300lb-ft):
http://bankspower.com/Sidewinder-vs-Enzo.cfm
i dont know what the 0-60 time is though

The gearbox dosn't matter, if they get a driver who only has made one single gearshift failure, in his nine year career, as racedriver. + he has the fastest lap ever on the Le Mans track, Cicuit de La Sarthe. :smt023

The gearbox does matter, Taurus sport had to detune their tuoreg engin because it was desrtroying the gearbox. remember theres going to be about 1000lb/ft going through from low revs, ouch.

The gearbox's are also sequential shifts so TK couldnt have fluft many could he.

Theres another reason why Audi want the diesel, so they can get a years experience with it befor peugeot come in with their own deisel.