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CarRocker
Oct 24, 2005, 1:36 PM
http://www.formula1.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.formula1.com/images/spacer.gifFormula One racing’s governing body, the FIA, has revealed plans for an innovative rear-wing design which it says could dramatically increase the amount of overtaking in the sport.http://www.formula1.com/images/spacer.gifThe Centreline Downwash Generating (CDG) Wing is effectively two small rear wings - one over each wheel - with a clear gap in between. This gap would create a wake in which a following car would generate more downforce, allowing them to run much closer to the car in front through corners, hence making passing easier.

The FIA hopes to see the design introduced as early as 2007 in conjunction with a return to wider wheels and slick tyres. The idea will be presented to a meeting of the Formula One Commission in London on Monday, where future regulations will be discussed.

The CDG Wing marks the first results of the FIA’s collaboration with technology partners AMD, researching ways of improving the aerodynamic performance of a car when trying to overtake.

“This new research is important for the future of Formula One,” said FIA President, Max Mosley. “By introducing the CDG wing we can give motor sport fans exactly what they have asked for, wheel-to-wheel racing with much more overtaking.

“It is our hope that the teams will collaborate with us in the optimisation of this radical new idea so that the aerodynamic benefits can be introduced into Formula One in 2007 rather than having to wait until 2008.”

Major revisions to the aerodynamic regulations introduced in 2005 achieved their objective of cutting speeds. The downside was increasingly intricate bodywork designs which created high levels of turbulence behind the cars, making it more difficult for following cars to overtake.

http://www.fia.com/resources/images/1782256506__CDG_graphic.jpg

http://www.fia.com/resources/images/1306371943__CDG_Air_Flow_graphic.jpg

I so hope this will be the new wing. It looks rediculous, but if it does what they say it does, then I dont mind the looks at all

Hydraulic
Oct 24, 2005, 2:11 PM
I think this is defnately a good idea but this design would also have drawbacks to it. The fact that it allows for more air prssure behind the car means that when going around corners other cars would be able to follow a little more closely. However this type of airodynamic action would probably have the opposite effect on a straightaway because the added air pressure would mean a decrease in the top speed of the vehicle, making it harder to keep up with the vehicle in front on a straightaway. This design seems like it would be better for corners than on straightaways. Usually when it comes to downforce you have to scrifice straightaway speed for cornering speed; vice versa.

S7Kid
Oct 24, 2005, 2:27 PM
I think this is defnately a good idea but this design would also have drawbacks to it. The fact that it allows for more air prssure behind the car means that when going around corners other cars would be able to follow a little more closely. However this type of airodynamic action would probably have the opposite effect on a straightaway because the added air pressure would mean a decrease in the top speed of the vehicle, making it harder to keep up with the vehicle in front on a straightaway. This design seems like it would be better for corners than on straightaways. Usually when it comes to downforce you have to scrifice straightaway speed for cornering speed; vice versa.

I think the effect on straightaway speeds would be minimal. Besides, in F1 you can only really overtake driving into and out of the corners anyhow. With such a small horsepower and coefficient of drag differences between the cars, straightaway speeds are pretty similar throughout the grid. It's how the cars corner that dictates who wins. As far as straightaway speeds, the McLarens(920+ Merc hp) and BARs (920+ Honda hp), were not that much quicker than the Minardis, (900+ Cosworth hp) and Jordan's (900+ Ferrari hp). It's all about launch at the beginning of the race, and the car's ability to drive into and out of the corners.

This dual wing is a great idea. The cars have become way too dependant on aero grip, not mechanical. Had you seen the IRL race at Watkins Glen his year, you would have been reminded of what F1 racing used to be like, and everyone would realize FIA should have made these changes a few years back.

!ChEeKy GiRl!
Oct 24, 2005, 2:52 PM
they are now allowed to change their tyres

and as for qualifying

1 hour...

after 20 mins slowest 5 drop out - last 5

after 40 mins next slowest 5 drop out - penultimate 5

after 60 mins all the places are filled - top 10

lambo or holden
Oct 24, 2005, 5:55 PM
Sounds intrasting.
I don't watch racing much but this might get me more intrasted.
F1 cars are already ugly so we don't have to worry abput looks.

Mopar68
Oct 24, 2005, 7:32 PM
It's nice to see a difference in shape. Formula 1 design has been stagnate for a couple of years now. I mean, how much could they possibly improve on the aerodynamics of these cars?

wanna koenigsegg
Oct 24, 2005, 9:17 PM
It sounds interesting and could have a huge impact on the competition.
Unfortunately I live in Australia and they only show the grand prix at 2am in the morning, so I dont get to watch it much.

VR6 Man
Oct 24, 2005, 10:31 PM
I like that its going to make everything more competitive. I'm sure things will be interesting when this is put into effect.

Porscheboy
Oct 24, 2005, 10:41 PM
I can't wait to see how this turns out. I bet that they'll have the aerodynamics and downforce mastered in a few years, then their'll be another change. Like four toothpicks in a row. And one going across the top. Or somethin....

SteveFX
Oct 25, 2005, 3:11 AM
Nice concept, but not likely to improve the quality of F1 racing.

The 2.4L will slow the cars down, but at a horrid cost in engine development. There will be fewer cars. It would have been better to reduce rev limits; then specify bore/stroke ratios that would make a V8 the optimum solution.

What do you expect when the French keep the record books?

RB_26DETT
Oct 25, 2005, 7:32 AM
It'a a great idea. This should make F1 interesting again.
Combined with tire stops and slick tires.