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skylineman
Jan 14, 2004, 2:16 PM
I know how to do the Japanese drift manuver but I am wondering if anyone else knows how to do it :twisted:
dark_hunter
Jan 14, 2004, 4:14 PM
There was a topic like this made a while ago ----> http://www.sportscarforums.com/showthread.php?t=789&postdays=0&postorde r=asc&start=0
I know how to do the Japanese drift manuver but I am wondering if anyone else knows how to do it :twisted: I think they use the emergency brake.
jimkk29
Jan 14, 2004, 4:20 PM
You mean the handbrake?
NiGiz
Jan 14, 2004, 4:28 PM
Yeah Jim, e-brake is the handbrake. :wink:
jimkk29
Jan 14, 2004, 4:32 PM
I've never heard of it as "emergency brake". :?
dark_hunter
Jan 14, 2004, 4:47 PM
Thats what I call it :)
skylineman
Jan 15, 2004, 2:14 PM
I have hear them called both hand brakes and emergency brakes (e-brakes)
dark_hunter
Jan 15, 2004, 2:57 PM
I hate when people call it e-brake :evil: In the game Stunt Man, its most annoying for me :?
sr20det_swapper
Jan 16, 2004, 10:22 PM
E Brake - This is simply using the E-brake to lock up the rear wheels. It scrubs speed quickly, and isn't that good a technique to use. Of course, nearly all cars have a parking/emergency brake, and it's right there, making this one of the easiest techniques.
Braking Drift - This technique is more advanced, and relies on weight transfer. You continue braking for a short time after you turn into the corner, which loads up the front wheels with lots of weight, causing the rear tires to exceed their traction threshhold through inertia. This drift can be continued by overpowering the rear tires, or by skillful management of the cars inertia through left foot braking. This is most useful in medium and high speed corners, where you have lots of inertia to work with.
Power Oversteer - Pretty simple, using the power of a rear wheel drive, or heavy rear biased all wheel drive car to overpower the rear tires, exceeding their longitudinal traction, which makes their lateral traction threshhold very low. This is useful in low speed corners, where you can't rely on inertia alone to drift the car.
Clutch Kick - This is a technique very similar to power oversteer, it involves disengaging the clutch, building higher RPMs, and dropping the clutch to send an extra jolt of power to the rear tires. This actually has a twofold effect, not only does it overpower the rear tires, but the sudden lifting of the throttle results in less weight transfer to the rear wheels.
Throttle Off - Also known as Kansei drifting in Japan, this is an age old technique for cars with a fairly neutral suspension balance. Lifting the throttle mostly or completely during cornering causes the weight that was on the rear wheels from acceleration to transfer to the front wheels, resulting in a high speed drift of a slight angle, making higher cornering speed possible in some corners. This is very effective when combined with heavy braking to transfer weight to the front wheels. If you watch Rally racing on pavement, this form of drifting is fairly common. This is also the form of drifting used in the anime series Initial D
jimkk29
Jan 17, 2004, 8:10 AM
sr20det_swapper, you just said it all. :wink:
White-Night
Jan 17, 2004, 8:32 AM
E Brake - This is simply using the E-brake to lock up the rear wheels. It scrubs speed quickly, and isn't that good a technique to use. Of course, nearly all cars have a parking/emergency brake, and it's right there, making this one of the easiest techniques.
Braking Drift - This technique is more advanced, and relies on weight transfer. You continue braking for a short time after you turn into the corner, which loads up the front wheels with lots of weight, causing the rear tires to exceed their traction threshhold through inertia. This drift can be continued by overpowering the rear tires, or by skillful management of the cars inertia through left foot braking. This is most useful in medium and high speed corners, where you have lots of inertia to work with.
Power Oversteer - Pretty simple, using the power of a rear wheel drive, or heavy rear biased all wheel drive car to overpower the rear tires, exceeding their longitudinal traction, which makes their lateral traction threshhold very low. This is useful in low speed corners, where you can't rely on inertia alone to drift the car.
Clutch Kick - This is a technique very similar to power oversteer, it involves disengaging the clutch, building higher RPMs, and dropping the clutch to send an extra jolt of power to the rear tires. This actually has a twofold effect, not only does it overpower the rear tires, but the sudden lifting of the throttle results in less weight transfer to the rear wheels.
Throttle Off - Also known as Kansei drifting in Japan, this is an age old technique for cars with a fairly neutral suspension balance. Lifting the throttle mostly or completely during cornering causes the weight that was on the rear wheels from acceleration to transfer to the front wheels, resulting in a high speed drift of a slight angle, making higher cornering speed possible in some corners. This is very effective when combined with heavy braking to transfer weight to the front wheels. If you watch Rally racing on pavement, this form of drifting is fairly common. This is also the form of drifting used in the anime series Initial D
weight transfer is mainly used in rally , by the way i think you missed the most important , the POWER SLIDE , while using the gas pedale along with the brakes pedal to transfer the weight from the the back to the frond and backwords .
this technique is the most important and the hardest and you must have a real good control in your left leg ( which will have to use the brakes ! ) .
anyways thanks for the queck and clear explentaion ( i wanted to do it along time ago but i know that if i will try to write in english i will have to rewrite it at least 10 times :) )
one more thing , if you wanna practice power slides you first have to practice using your left foot for braking and believe me its hard , first time when i tried to slow down a little by brakeing the car stopped and i almost had an accident , so try it when your alone and with no other cars on the roads .
if you wanna practice weight transfer my advise is practecing on the rain ( wet road ) in low speeds , its easier for starters , you don't burn the tires and its always fun.
dark_hunter
Jan 17, 2004, 12:58 PM
sr20det_swapper, you just said it all. :wink: Looks like we got a pro here :wink:
jimkk29
Jan 18, 2004, 9:20 AM
Well actually he copied it from someplace. :lol:
dark_hunter
Jan 18, 2004, 11:06 AM
Well actually he copied it from someplace. :lol: I was thinking that :lol:
HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 11:29 AM
it it possible to drift with a Fwd. would u just over steer or use the handbrake?
I DUNO :? :?: :?: :?:
sr20det_swapper
Jan 18, 2004, 2:20 PM
Well actually he copied it from someplace. :lol: I was thinking that :lol:
hey i dont care if i copied it it was mainly trying to get infor for you guys.
dark_hunter
Jan 18, 2004, 3:10 PM
Well actually he copied it from someplace. :lol: I was thinking that :lol:hey i dont care if i copied it it was mainly trying to get infor for you guys. ...and we thank you :D
jimkk29
Jan 18, 2004, 4:48 PM
Well actually he copied it from someplace. :lol: I was thinking that :lol:hey i dont care if i copied it it was mainly trying to get infor for you guys. ...and we thank you :D
...yeah, we didn't accuse you of it! :D
dark_hunter
Jan 20, 2004, 11:39 PM
I know how to do the Japanese drift manuver but I am wondering if anyone else knows how to do it :twisted: I think the real question is: How much do they pay for tires :?:
sr20det_swapper
Jan 24, 2004, 11:39 AM
I know how to do the Japanese drift manuver but I am wondering if anyone else knows how to do it :twisted: I think the real question is: How much do they pay for tires :?:
lmao, not to mention clutch
TYRONN7
Mar 15, 2004, 5:35 PM
But what about the FWD cars. I for one tryed to pull a slide (without the handbrake at all) by trying to move the masses and that required left foot braking. I for one got a bit used with left foot braking (even though it doesn't sound hard it really is to get your left foot to be so sensitive like your right foot).BUT when i tried to use the technique it just didn't work : as i was in the 1st gear and around 40km/h i slighty touched the brake with my left foot, begun steering left, and in the same time tried to smash the gas but it didn't happen anything just lots of understeer. the engine was neutral i mean the braking force was neutralising the throttle. maybe my car isn't powerfull enough. 1.4 16v 105 HP. anyway not a hint of slide so not to leave without any fun i returned to the handbrake smashed the thottle and begun some burnouts and drifts until (with the windows down) it started to throw small pices of rubber. But the smoke was infernal :twisted:
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