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PimpsoN
Jan 31, 2004, 12:10 AM
Can anybody tell me if the SRT-4 can come in autmatic trans or is it just manual... :?:

nice car by the way

dark_hunter
Jan 31, 2004, 12:14 AM
Can anybody tell me if the SRT-4 can come in autmatic trans or is it just manual... :?: I don't think so, but I maybe wrong. Check the website.

PimpsoN
Jan 31, 2004, 12:18 AM
I was wishing it can because i was planing on buying it but my parents dont want me to get manual...weird :?

White-Night
Jan 31, 2004, 12:27 AM
http://prdupl02.ynet.co.il/ForumFiles/6412170.bmp

dark_hunter
Jan 31, 2004, 12:31 AM
I was wishing it can because i was planing on buying it but my parents dont want me to get manual...weird :? That's like my mom :lol:
http://prdupl02.ynet.co.il/ForumFiles/6412170.bmpLOL :lol: I always do that.

White-Night
Jan 31, 2004, 12:34 AM
:) you do but some don't ,

i guess i will be using this to each topic which is really dumb , and the person who asked it didn't even bother even a little search in the web !

F1356WRCRS
Jan 31, 2004, 8:58 AM
It might come with an auto, but it would be a waste of your money to buy it with one.

BluCamSS
Jan 31, 2004, 1:31 PM
Guys get off the kids back, he asked a question....
And as far as I know, no automatic....you wouldn't want one in that car anyway.

igaboj
Jan 31, 2004, 2:37 PM
5 speed manual i believe, but there should be an automatic in case buyers like you want one

jimkk29
Jan 31, 2004, 6:04 PM
Automatic gearboxes are a total waste of money. I honestly can't see the point in having one. :?
I don't know about the SRT-4 btw.

Rouin
Jan 31, 2004, 8:17 PM
someone go tell that to mercedes! haha j/k

dark_hunter
Jan 31, 2004, 11:36 PM
Automatic gearboxes are a total waste of money. What you guys think of semi-auto :?:
I think it's cool 8)

BluCamSS
Feb 01, 2004, 2:11 PM
Automatic gearboxes are a total waste of money. What you guys think of semi-auto :?:
I think it's cool 8)

Well do you mean the semi-automatic like a Tiptronic in a Porsche?
That is just a regular automatic gearbox with fancy buttons->WASTE.
(Still saps power and shifts slow.)

Or

Do you mean a semi-automatic-manual like in a Ferrari?
That is a manual gearbox with electro-hydrolic controls->AWESOME.
(Shifts very quick and is right out of Formula 1.)

dark_hunter
Feb 01, 2004, 3:11 PM
Automatic gearboxes are a total waste of money. What you guys think of semi-auto :?:
I think it's cool 8)Well do you mean the semi-automatic like a Tiptronic in a Porsche?
That is just a regular automatic gearbox with fancy buttons->WASTE.
(Still saps power and shifts slow.)
Or
Do you mean a semi-automatic-manual like in a Ferrari?
That is a manual gearbox with electro-hydrolic controls->AWESOME.
(Shifts very quick and is right out of Formula 1.) No, there is an option on the 350z in Canada where you can stay in automatic or then slide the stick into the manual mode where it's just + and - shifting. I hope you understand :)

BluCamSS
Feb 01, 2004, 5:04 PM
Automatic gearboxes are a total waste of money. What you guys think of semi-auto :?:
I think it's cool 8)Well do you mean the semi-automatic like a Tiptronic in a Porsche?
That is just a regular automatic gearbox with fancy buttons->WASTE.
(Still saps power and shifts slow.)
Or
Do you mean a semi-automatic-manual like in a Ferrari?
That is a manual gearbox with electro-hydrolic controls->AWESOME.
(Shifts very quick and is right out of Formula 1.) No, there is an option on the 350z in Canada where you can stay in automatic or then slide the stick into the manual mode where it's just + and - shifting. I hope you understand :)

Yeah thats nothing, just a automatic with a manual shift mode....
Still a torque converter equipped automatic gearbox....

jimkk29
Feb 01, 2004, 6:28 PM
Blucam is right on this one, but I would still totally prefer a fully manual than a semi with electrohydraulic clutch.

dark_hunter
Feb 01, 2004, 7:02 PM
Blucam is right on this one, but I would still totally prefer a fully manual than a semi with electrohydraulic clutch.Same here, I was just asking what you guys thought of it.

BluCamSS
Feb 02, 2004, 12:47 AM
Blucam is right on this one, but I would still totally prefer a fully manual than a semi with electrohydraulic clutch.

I thought that to until I drove a co-workers F1 equiped F355 Spider and my friends SMG equiped M3, they rule. They shift SO quick.

jimkk29
Feb 02, 2004, 8:37 AM
I've never driven one of those, but I really don't think it would change my mind...

BluCamSS
Feb 02, 2004, 12:53 PM
I've never driven one of those, but I really don't think it would change my mind...

I THOUGHT that also, until I drove those two.

White-Night
Feb 02, 2004, 1:13 PM
although you are way offtopic but i will give my opinion .

1st choise - GOOD and i mean real good sequential gearbox ( the fastest )
2nd Manual gearbox ( the best for feeling and pleasure )
3rd semi manual gearbox ( better than the automatic when it comes to handling )
4th automatic gearbox ( good for traffic nothing more! )

BluCamSS
Feb 02, 2004, 2:29 PM
1st choise - GOOD and i mean real good sequential gearbox ( the fastest )
3rd semi manual gearbox ( better than the automatic when it comes to handling )


Those two are the same.
A sequential/semi-automatic-manual gearbox is the same thing, based off a manual gearbox.
I think maybe you meant for your 3rd choice a automatic with shift controls like a Tiptronic?

jimkk29
Feb 02, 2004, 6:50 PM
I think maybe you meant for your 3rd choice a automatic with shift controls like a Tiptronic?
That's still an automatic.

TheCivicProject
Feb 03, 2004, 11:46 AM
Dodge has always been infamous for crappy transmissions and mechanical engine problems. the SRT-4 may have some bang for its buck, but if you race it too much, you'll get a bang out of the engine. But then again, I am not an avid fan of Dodge except for their 68 R/T Hemi Charger.

White-Night
Feb 03, 2004, 1:18 PM
1st choise - GOOD and i mean real good sequential gearbox ( the fastest )
3rd semi manual gearbox ( better than the automatic when it comes to handling )


Those two are the same.
A sequential/semi-automatic-manual gearbox is the same thing, based off a manual gearbox.
I think maybe you meant for your 3rd choice a automatic with shift controls like a Tiptronic?

sequental gear box you have in some cars ( very few ) , its a manual gearbox that shifts roboticly , there is no torque converter so there is no lost of power or speed .
you can get to the preformance of a sequental gearbox in a manual if you shift"perfect all the time , but if you really do that you a machine :)

semiautomatic gearbox like tiptronic do have torque converter and you loose power and speed so they are the last in my list .

dark_hunter
Feb 03, 2004, 5:12 PM
the SRT-4 may have some bang for its buck, IMO, it's all band for your buck :D

BluCamSS
Feb 03, 2004, 7:17 PM
semiautomatic gearbox like tiptronic do have torque converter and you loose power and speed so they are the last in my list .

Thats wrong, a semi-automatic/manual does not have a torque converter.
It is a manual gearbox still.

A Tiptronic is just a average automatic gearbox with fancy buttons.

White-Night
Feb 03, 2004, 7:47 PM
semiautomatic gearbox like tiptronic do have torque converter and you loose power and speed so they are the last in my list .

Thats wrong, a semi-automatic/manual does not have a torque converter.
It is a manual gearbox still.

A Tiptronic is just a average automatic gearbox with fancy buttons.

i think your confused !
here are links to explenation about each gear box manual automatic and sequential :

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/sequential-gearbox.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission8.htm

and i will quote something from there about the sequential couse most of the memebers are too lazy to read i guess . so :

Because of the advantages of the sequential approach, this type of transmission is starting to appear on cars in the high-end tuner market. A sequential manual transmission is not to be confused with a "tiptronic" sort of automatic transmission. The tiptronic system may duplicate the shift lever motion of a sequential gearbox. However, because a tiptronic transmission is an automatic transmission at its core, it still has the torque converter and usually does not shift as quickly.

semiautomatic transmition does have a converter such as tiptronic .

BluCamSS
Feb 03, 2004, 11:05 PM
semiautomatic gearbox like tiptronic do have torque converter and you loose power and speed so they are the last in my list .

Thats wrong, a semi-automatic/manual does not have a torque converter.
It is a manual gearbox still.

A Tiptronic is just a average automatic gearbox with fancy buttons.

i think your confused !
here are links to explenation about each gear box manual automatic and sequential :

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/sequential-gearbox.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission8.htm

and i will quote something from there about the sequential couse most of the memebers are too lazy to read i guess . so :

Because of the advantages of the sequential approach, this type of transmission is starting to appear on cars in the high-end tuner market. A sequential manual transmission is not to be confused with a "tiptronic" sort of automatic transmission. The tiptronic system may duplicate the shift lever motion of a sequential gearbox. However, because a tiptronic transmission is an automatic transmission at its core, it still has the torque converter and usually does not shift as quickly.

semiautomatic transmition does have a converter such as tiptronic .

What a bunch of misleading information that is. :roll: That site seems to me like one mans opinion if you ask me.
A semi-auto is based off a manual gearbox, a Tiptronic is just a torque converter equiped auto box with outboard buttons to control shifts. A semi-auto is the same thing as a sequential gearbox for the most part. A semi-auto is NOT a torque converter equiped auto gearbox. Try reading Ferraris, Maseratis, Lamborginis, Aston Martins, BMWs, Audis and even Toyotas websites. All those cars have a "semi-auto" gearbox avaliable. People can call something whatever they want, a true semi-auto is a manual gearbox with electrohydrolic controls just like a sequential gearbox.

Right off Ferrari.com

The Enzo Ferrari uses a paddle shifted, F1, robotized-sequential-electrohydrolic 6-speed semi-automatic-manual gearbox.

Right off BMW.com

SMG is the new way to shift and enjoy the BMW experience. The new SMG gearbox uses semi-auto technology to take care of clutch and shift mechanisims. All the driver has to do is move the console mounted gear shift or the paddles behind the steering wheel.

Humm who do you think is correct? I'd say Ferrari and BMW. Not to mention I have read the differences a million times when helping my friend make his decision to get a SMG equipped M3. :-)

jimkk29
Feb 04, 2004, 8:52 AM
Guys you're saying the same thing. You're just confused with names. White-Night says "semi-automatic" and means tiptronics, steptronics, durashifts etc, and Blucam says "semi-automatic" and means SMG's.

White-Night
Feb 04, 2004, 9:22 AM
semiautomatic gearbox like tiptronic do have torque converter and you loose power and speed so they are the last in my list .

Thats wrong, a semi-automatic/manual does not have a torque converter.
It is a manual gearbox still.

A Tiptronic is just a average automatic gearbox with fancy buttons.

i think your confused !
here are links to explenation about each gear box manual automatic and sequential :

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/sequential-gearbox.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission8.htm

and i will quote something from there about the sequential couse most of the memebers are too lazy to read i guess . so :

Because of the advantages of the sequential approach, this type of transmission is starting to appear on cars in the high-end tuner market. A sequential manual transmission is not to be confused with a "tiptronic" sort of automatic transmission. The tiptronic system may duplicate the shift lever motion of a sequential gearbox. However, because a tiptronic transmission is an automatic transmission at its core, it still has the torque converter and usually does not shift as quickly.

semiautomatic transmition does have a converter such as tiptronic .

What a bunch of misleading information that is. :roll: That site seems to me like one mans opinion if you ask me.
A semi-auto is based off a manual gearbox, a Tiptronic is just a torque converter equiped auto box with outboard buttons to control shifts. A semi-auto is the same thing as a sequential gearbox for the most part. A semi-auto is NOT a torque converter equiped auto gearbox. Try reading Ferraris, Maseratis, Lamborginis, Aston Martins, BMWs, Audis and even Toyotas websites. All those cars have a "semi-auto" gearbox avaliable. People can call something whatever they want, a true semi-auto is a manual gearbox with electrohydrolic controls just like a sequential gearbox.

Right off Ferrari.com

The Enzo Ferrari uses a paddle shifted, F1, robotized-sequential-electrohydrolic 6-speed semi-automatic-manual gearbox.

Right off BMW.com

SMG is the new way to shift and enjoy the BMW experience. The new SMG gearbox uses semi-auto technology to take care of clutch and shift mechanisims. All the driver has to do is move the console mounted gear shift or the paddles behind the steering wheel.

Humm who do you think is correct? I'd say Ferrari and BMW. Not to mention I have read the differences a million times when helping my friend make his decision to get a SMG equipped M3. :-)

the Enzo have a sequential gearbox , and its pretty good , while the toyota sequential gearbox is crappy ( you can find it in the MR2/S, its slower than the manual gearbox in about one second from 0-100 , it still is a sequential gearbox but its crappy , the enzo's sequential gearbox is one of the best there is .

the SMG is one of the closest semi-automatic gearbox that have the preformance of a manual gear box , one of the best there is in the field .

when i say semi-manual i mean selspeed (alfa romeo) all the toptronic and the others that jimikk said ( so that we don't get confused

BluCamSS
Feb 04, 2004, 12:29 PM
the Enzo have a sequential gearbox , and its pretty good , while the toyota sequential gearbox is crappy ( you can find it in the MR2/S, its slower than the manual gearbox in about one second from 0-100 , it still is a sequential gearbox but its crappy , the enzo's sequential gearbox is one of the best there is .

the SMG is one of the closest semi-automatic gearbox that have the preformance of a manual gear box , one of the best there is in the field .

when i say semi-manual i mean selspeed (alfa romeo) all the toptronic and the others that jimikk said ( so that we don't get confused


My other post explained things well, but to go one step further...
The "semi-auto" in the BMW is called SMG as I said...that stands for sequential manual gearbox incase you didn't know.

And a Tiptronic is a fully automatic set-up, not a semi-auto. If it has a torque converter its just a fancy auto gearbox with buttons. :-)

White-Night
Feb 04, 2004, 2:02 PM
the Enzo have a sequential gearbox , and its pretty good , while the toyota sequential gearbox is crappy ( you can find it in the MR2/S, its slower than the manual gearbox in about one second from 0-100 , it still is a sequential gearbox but its crappy , the enzo's sequential gearbox is one of the best there is .

the SMG is one of the closest semi-automatic gearbox that have the preformance of a manual gear box , one of the best there is in the field .

when i say semi-manual i mean selspeed (alfa romeo) all the toptronic and the others that jimikk said ( so that we don't get confused


My other post explained things well, but to go one step further...
The "semi-auto" in the BMW is called SMG as I said...that stands for sequential manual gearbox incase you didn't know.

And a Tiptronic is a fully automatic set-up, not a semi-auto. If it has a torque converter its just a fancy auto gearbox with buttons. :-)

i think we gote confused with the words , over here semi-automatic is a tiptronic , anyways i still don't think the SMG is a sequential gearbox but i can't really prove it now couse i don't have time ( exams in the university ) - so maybe later at night i will try to check the full operation of the SMG including the specs .

BluCamSS
Feb 04, 2004, 3:21 PM
over here semi-automatic is a tiptronic , anyways i still don't think the SMG is a sequential gearbox.

A Tiptronic is NOT a semi-auto. Not even close, thats like saying any automatic with some kind of manual controls via buttons or whatever is, not to mention a Tiptronic WILL UPSHIFT even if you don't....it is just a fancy automatic.

The SMG is sequential....hence the name, sequential manual gearbox.

And furthermore, this topic has gotten way off track. Back to the SRT-4.
Any further posts about trannys not related to the SRT-4 will be deleted.
White, if you want to talk about this more, just PM me or lets drop it. Thanks.

jimkk29
Feb 04, 2004, 5:49 PM
You could start a new topic to continue this discussion.

White-Night
Feb 04, 2004, 5:55 PM
You could start a new topic to continue this discussion.

i already PM Blu and asked him to cut the section when we talked about gearboxes , he i guess he still didn't get it . ( and if anyother mod see's this well please cut the discution and turn it in an individual and new topic . thanks )